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By Dudley McGarity
If you found this article while surfing the web or in a Google Search, you may have also noticed some other articles that present an extremely negative picture of both Blackpowder Products, Inc. and our CVA muzzleloading brand. Unfortunately, this is nothing new to us, as most of it relates to Connecticut Valley Arms, Inc.’s Voluntary Recall — which was initiated way back in 1997. Most of these negative “articles” are actually several years old, but it seems that every so often they resurface and cause a rash of new internet chatter. As the CEO of BPI, I’d like to provide you with a little background information that will give you some insight as to why these persons would practice this “internet terrorism” against our company.
You’ll notice that all of these “hit pieces” originate from one of two individuals. One of them has been engaged in an internet smear campaign against BPI and our CVA brand for several years now. Interestingly, the last time we checked, he works part-time for one of our competitors, Savage Arms Company. As for the other, he is a private investigator employed by a law firm that specializes in product liability lawsuits. Over the past several years, both of these men have essentially been working together for this law firm, apparently in the pursuit of clients for whom the firm can potentially file gun accident lawsuits against BPI. As a part of this effort, the private investigator has recently set up a website on which he publishes, for the most part, information from the various court filings that were made in relation to accidents that occurred during the use of these recalled CVA guns – guns that were made in 1995 and 1996. Needless to say, neither of these “gentlemen” could be considered unbiased commentators on CVA products. To the contrary, both have a financial interest in publicizing only the information — be it selected, partial, distorted, and/or blatantly false — that would provide some sort of advantage to their law firm and/or publicly damage the reputation and business of BPI/CVA.
As for the recall, it is certainly no secret that, way back in 1997, Connecticut Valley Arms, Inc. did in fact initiate a voluntary recall of one design of an in-line gun that was made in 1995 and 1996. And, it is also no secret that a number of people were injured with these guns. However, Connecticut Valley Arms, Inc. took responsibility at that time by issuing the recall, and BPI (the current owner of the CVA brand) is continuing the recall effort in an attempt to find all of these guns. So far, about 96% of the approximately 55,000 recalled guns have been accounted for. The CVA Voluntary Recall is still in effect, and BPI continues to mention this in our CVA catalogs and on our CVA web page, and will be until every recall gun is found. Other than the voluntary recall of these 1995 and 1996 guns, no other CVA gun model has ever been recalled for any reason.
Now, in regard to the present rather than the past, the guns that are marketed under the CVA brand today bear little if any design similarity to those that were recalled in 1997. In fact, none of the barrels we use today are sourced from outside vendors. Rather, they are all made in the Bergara Barrels factory, a facility that is wholly owned by our parent company. In addition to building the barrels for all CVA guns, Bergara Barrels also makes some of the most respected after market barrels available today, as well as providing barrels to many other highly reputed gun manufacturers throughout the world. Because of our direct control over the barrel making processes, today’s CVA guns, when used as instructed, are as safe as any muzzleloader on the market. Also, in terms of materials and construction, they are of equal, if not superior, quality to those of any of our competitors. This fact has been illustrated by the success that the CVA brand has enjoyed for the better part of a decade now – as the # 1 selling muzzleloader brand in the world.
As a potential or present CVA owner, it is essential that you are able to use our guns with total confidence. And, certainly, reading the ramblings of characters like those I mention above can understandably shake that confidence. While there is nothing we can ever do that will erase the history of a product recall from 15 years ago, I do hope that I have provided you with a balancing perspective that will counter the misinformation that you may read about our company on the internet.
If you’d like to learn more about today’s CVA guns, and why they are now taking the market by storm, please check out our website at www.cva.com.
Saturday, 17. April 2010
Dudley,
I can completely understand your concern and never ending fight against these two individuals who keep trying to smear a name that can not be smeared.
As a shooter and hunter for the past twenty years I stand by CVA and it’s owner BPI. Now some my say I am biased well I would be the first to say Yes I am. I am a tester for CVA as you know and have been shooting CVA products for at least the past fifteen years without one single problem
It is a shame that because of two individual with nothing better to do than think about the monetary balance of their pockets would keep saying what they are saying really puts a black eye on the whole blackpowder and muzzleloading industry.
If they want to keep talking trash about CVA products than let them put their wallets 100 yards out and I would be happy to show them what my CVA muzzleloader can do.
Thursday, 22. April 2010
Dudley,
I haven’t done much lately just been real busy at the store and going out to the range testing the Apex, Optima Elite, and the Accura at 200 yrds but I have been keeping up with what is going on in the muzzle loader world especially with CVA since my sales keep going up.
I have got into it with Randy Wakeman a couple of times since we pick up the CVA line and I have done and still doing all this testing and in my opinion it was a waste of my time. The man is totally ignorant as to what is going on and does not have a clue about what he is talking about. Like Rick said in his response to you if any body has nay doubts in their minds about any of your products and how they preform tell them to bring whatever muzzle loader they have to the range and put their money where their mouth is and I will show them what the Apex, Optima Elite or the Accura will do not only a 100 yrds but at 200 yrds.
carlos
Friday, 23. April 2010
Carlos: Thanks for the comments. You are correct that CVA Muzzleloaders today are better than anything on the market — both in accuracy and in value — as is evidenced by our money back accuracy guarantee on the CVA ACCURA. It really makes me feel good to hear from someone like you — someone who actually shoots guns before forming opinions, and through such testing has strong positive feelings about our CVA guns. However, CVA still does have a lot of consumers to educate, and we understand that. The first step in this process is just continuing to build better guns than our competition. By doing this, our reputation will spread, and shooters who buy based on factual knowledge will buy our guns. While the internet can be a great source of information, some bad apples with a hidden agenda are abusing the forum that it provides — something editors and fact checkers are able to filter in the established firearms print media. For example, I can assure that none of the writers at NRA, Field and Stream, Outdoor Life, and other leading publications, all of whom have awarded recent CVA guns their highest awards, are working either directly or indirectly for law firms that make their living by suing gun companies, as do both of the men who were the subject of my article. Dudley
Friday, 23. April 2010
I am having problems finding out just how old my 32in 50 cal CVA Mountain is. serial # 0004700 Made in U.S.A. Can you help?
Friday, 23. April 2010
Definately an old one. Based on the serial number, I’d say that it was made in the early ’80s.
Friday, 23. April 2010
I purchased my first black powder rifle in Feb. this year a CVA Accura 50 cal. I have not hunted with it yet, but am anxiously waiting for this years deer season. I shoot Browning’s and Weatherby’s only, and I can say this is THE WEATHERBY of black powder rifles. I did my home work read the reviews and yes the two negative ones. When it was time to choose it was very clear , there really is no competition CVA is tops in all categories. Thanks CVA keep up the good work it shows in a fine product.
Saturday, 24. April 2010
James: I think you’ll really be impressed with the CVA ACCURA. It’s incredible accuracy is due to the fact that we use BERGARA BARRELS on the ACCURA model. For sure, these barrels are, on average, the most accurate production muzzleloader barrels available today. Thanks for your comments on the blog. Good luck with your CVA muzzleloader this season. Dudley
Tuesday, 25. May 2010
Thank you for this info. I’ll admit, I bought the disinformation hook, line, and sinker. I purchased my first black powder gun, a beat up .50cal Plainsman, at a gun show for next to nothing, and after I cleaned it up real nice, I researched your company. I was very concerned about the things I was reading, and was unwilling to purchase a CVA kit for my next gun, or even fire the one I have, until someone set me straight on your company. I’m just glad that I continued to dig until I got to the truth. Thank you for taking the time to put this out.
Wednesday, 26. May 2010
Ryan: Thanks for your comments. I am glad that you found this post. We have no idea how many people see Mr. Wakeman’s “articles” when researching muzzleloaders on the internet, but it is probably quite a few. Of course, most probably do not “continue to dig” in order to find out our side of this old story. It is also unfortunate that the Chuck Hawks website continues to leave this misinformation up on their website — which is the reason that it appears so prominantly in Google searches. As stated in our “The Truth About CVA” article, BPI, the CVA brand’s current owner, has never hidden the fact that there was a recall 15 years ago of certain in-line CVA muzzleloaders. That Chuck Hawks would effectively support this “trial lawyer hit job” on our company by allowing one of their “editors” to continue spreading this defamatory trash is perplexing to us, and certainly reflects poorly on the reputation of the Chuck Hawks site. Too bad, as such a site could certainly do better than allow itself to be used by product liablilty lawyers seeking to either harass or extort money from gun companies. Our industry has enough problems with lawyers already, we don’t need to give them any help from within our own ranks. Best regards, Dudley
Wednesday, 26. May 2010
Well I found out more about my CVA. After more research I have been told by various folks in the know that my gun was made in the 60’s before CVA went all out to Spain for parts.The barrel was produced by Douglas barrel in W.Virgina.
I wish CVA would start reproducing this type of replica again?
Wednesday, 26. May 2010
Russ: Yes, so do I. One of my favorite muzzleloading guns is a CVA Mountian Rifle in flintlock. It was a special gun that CVA built to commemorate its 25th anniversary back in 1996. It is a beauty with maple stock and a browned barrel and hardware. We built 500 of them and priced them very aggressively (as we had gotten a great deal on the maple stocks) at just $500. Unfortunately, it took us over 5 years to sell all of them. The reason: the mass market had gone almost totally to modern in-line style guns. Because of this, the remaining customers for traditional guns were what we call “enthusiasts” rather than just common hunters looking for an opportunity at a longer season. These enthusiasts tend to buy more expensive and truly authentic design traditional guns — which was never our specialty, other than the Mountain Rifle mentioned above. Therefore, from a business rather than emotional standpoint, we realized that the bulk of market had moved on into modern style guns and we moved with them — which turned out to be a wise business decison for us. Fortunately, there are still a good many specialty houses that do provide excellent choices in traditional muzzleloaders, and they are doing a great job in fulfilling the demand for these guns. Best regards, Dudley
Wednesday, 26. May 2010
Years ago my first muzzleloader was a Hawken and that extra primitiveness is how I originally got hooked on blackpowder shooting.
I would love the chance to own another one of those.
Wednesday, 26. May 2010
Know how you feel, Rick. I am still hooked on the whole primitive thing — muzzleloaders and bows.
Wednesday, 26. May 2010
So far the cheapest hawken style gun made in the U.S.A. that I have found would be by Lyman,the green mountain barrel is made in Conway,NH.
A new one of these may be as close as I could get to my 40+ yr old CVA?
I know CVA made a 25 th anniversary run with the name “Mountain” on the barrel.But Mine does not say that,It says black powder only 50 cal. CVA MADE IN U.S.A. I have confirmed the age with a man from Douglas barrel,and a man at CVA,and a man at Dixie gun works,who I’ve been told has alot of CVA’s older stuff.
Wednesday, 26. May 2010
The Lyman is an excellet rifle. I would highly recommend it.
Monday, 31. May 2010
I am new to muzzleloader hunting. Last fall, my colleague let me use his TC. This year I wanted to use my own muzzleloader. I knew that I did not want to spend a great sum of money on a muzzleloader, but I did want to get something that I considered to be nice. I purchased the Optima two days ago, but I almost canceled the order after I read an article on a publishers website about CVA muzzleloaders and saw some of the victims injuries. Realizing that I am a novice to using a muzzleloader, I was and I am concerned. Nevertheless, I did not cancel my order. I think because I considered the source, because they are not big fans of S&W either. Second, I researched reviews from guys that actually used the CVA muzzleloaders in the field and what comments they had to say about the weapon. The more sources that I gathered, helped my draw my own conclusion about the product.
I strongly feel that if I follow the instructions properly and take care of the weapon (the same as I do all of my Mark V’s), then things well be fine. I honestly think that the user has to be responsible and as we say in the military, “pay attention to detail”.
Tuesday, 1. June 2010
J: You should be very pleased with the Optima. Did you get one of the new 2010 models with the Quick Release Breech Plug? It is good that you took the time to research the internet opinions well before making a rash decision, as I am sure many people do not. For sure, the internet in general, and ChuckHawks.com in particular, allow persons with their own agendas to spread whatever biased and/or paid for garbage they want — in this case distortions about CVA Muzzleloaders from a lacky of some product liability lawyers. Unlike the “real” print media — meaning the more established gun and hunting magazines — their are (apparently) no fact checkers at Chuck Hawks. A real shame, as such a site could be a real plus for our sport if they would only clean out the bad apples. Thanks, Dudley
Wednesday, 14. July 2010
I have a 1979 CVA mountain rifle which is extremely accurate. I bought it new. The serial # is 017709. It is a 50 cal. It will put a ball thru a pop can opening leaving only a hole in the bottom at 25 yds. It will hit a ground hog in the head at 100 yds. I am thinking of selling it with all accessories.
Tuesday, 10. August 2010
CVA is fount the holy grail of muzzle loading rifles
The new Accura is perfect [almost] I didn’t like the ramrod !
Out of the box [black with blue barrel]
2×7 leupold compact scope added
first 5 shots sighting in at 100 yds.
120 gr volume equivalent of triple 7 3fg powder and the new 300 gr hornady bullet [PFB] no sabot needed.
5 shots = 1 ragged hole under 3/4 inch group
My last muzzleloader [ TC encore super 45] never grouped like this, and still doesn’t
This is the gun I’m taking to Colorado for elk !
The best gun at the best price!
Tuesday, 10. August 2010
Yes, the Accura V2 is a tack driver. How about the Quick Release Breech Plug (QRBP). It is fantastic. Anyone reading can see how it works in the test video at http://www.CVA.com.
Sunday, 15. August 2010
Dudley,
I was given an Apollo SS .50cal by my Father In-Law, a few years back. Every shot I have made with it has been a great experience. I took the biggest Doe of my life with this gun. It dressed out at 163lbs. The gun is mounted with a Bushnell 3-9x 40mm. Shooting Roundball and 90gr of Pyrodex pellets. She was moving through the woods at 70 yrds and I had a 4 foot window to shoot between the trees. It was a heart shot and she dropped on the spot!
I say all of this because without having full confidence in this gun I would have never even attempted that shot!
CVAs ROCK!!!!!!! I am one of your Facebook fans and proud of it!
My next Muzzleloader is going to be the Apex .50cal!
It’s Just A Better Gun!
Tuesday, 24. August 2010
Sir :
I have a Optima Pro magnum 50 cal…..with a speckled stock and forerarm..stainless it is my son’s .can bust 3″ clay birds at 200yds….here shortly getting the Optima 209 Magnum with the new breech plug…what sold me again is the trigger pull ..breaks like glass key factor to accuracy
thx BP hunter John
Wednesday, 25. August 2010
John: That is impressive shooting. I am sure that you’ll really enjoy the new CVA Optima with the Quick Release Breech Plug, as well. This plug design is the only one that really comes out with just finger pressure AFTER the gun has been fired. All the systems from our competitors will not do this. Also, the CVA Optima is a heck of a shooter, which I am sure you will appreciate. Thanks, Dudley
Thursday, 26. August 2010
Dudley, I have been shooting black powder guns since the early 60’s and currently own a .54 cal T/C Hawken, an original Knight MK-85 (purchased new in ‘85) and just recently a CVA Accura. I’m really impressed with the accuracy, workmanship and comfort of the CVA. I only use 100 grains of triple 7 as I have no need for greater velocity or power. I think your company has done a credible job of providing quality guns at an affordable price. Pretty important in todays economy. Thanks for the opportunity.
Wednesday, 1. September 2010
Larry: Thanks for your comments. We are very proud of how far CVA muzzleloaders have come over the last few years — and we are being rewarded with excellent sales results. The CVA Accura V2 is doing extremely well, as it has developed quite a (well-deserved) reputation for accuracy. Good luck this season! Dudley
Wednesday, 1. September 2010
Dudley
I bought my Accura last February, it does not have the quick removal breech plug, is this something that can be retrofitted ?
Thursday, 2. September 2010
James: Unfortunately, your CVA ACCURA barrel cannot be retrofitted with the Quick Release Breech Plug (QRBP). However, the barrel on your ACCURA rifle could be replaced with a QRBP barrel. This, however, would be a pretty expensive proposition — probably $200 or so — and not really worth it to most people.
Thursday, 2. September 2010
I am glad that you are setting the facts straight about Randy Wakeman and Chuck Hawks.. When my brother and I brought our CVA’s in 2007, we checked the world wide web for information also. Yes, the bad information was out there and we did read it , and determined that cva at that time did what they were suppose to do , and issue a recall. This is just like what Toyota was going through at this time.. When people start listening to radical views without presenting the fact’s , you are being controled by them. So, after looking at all the facts, we decided to purchase the optima and the wolf and both have been excellent guns. We shoot about 200 rounds a year through them and have not had any problems.. We use 90 to 150 grains of 777 powder and a 250 to 300 grain bullet. Our next gun will be th Apex.. Can’t wait. Oh yes.. 6 deer in 3 years. you can’t beat that.
Thursday, 2. September 2010
Dennis: Thank you for your comments. We had just ignored this stuff for several years, but each year it kept coming up again and flying all over the internet, so I decided that we needed to get the facts out there. Recently, Chuck Hawks was kind enough to allow me to post a response to Randy Wakeman’s articles on his website, and I am grateful to him for allowing me to do this. I think the word is out pretty well now, as I get fewer and fewer emails related to Mr. Wakeman’s outdated articles. The CVA Apex is indeed an awesome muzzleloader, and it allow you to convert to center-fire if so desired. As far as a straight muzzleloader is concerned, the CVA Accura V2 is awesome! We actually guarantee that the Accura V2 will be the most accurate muzzleloader you’ve ever shot, or we will refund your purchase price. Not a big deal for us, as we really just have that much confidence in the Accura V2. Good luck with your hunting this year and thanks again for your support of the CVA brand. Dudley
Saturday, 11. September 2010
Dudley, I have been hunting with TC Encore for the past six years, and have had some accuracy problems and the trigger creep drives me nuts. I decided to buy an Apex, but came across the “smear” article that you mentioned and decided definitely against CVA until findig this blog… now I want to proceed buying the CVA Apex; problem is that I have called every major gun shop in New Jersey and can not find one that has an Apex. I tried calling CVA and they could not help either because they say the guns are allocated by distributors and they do not know where they go!!! Can’t buy one if I can’t find one. Everone is willing to order one for me, but I want to see it and touch it first. Thanks, Ray
Saturday, 11. September 2010
recently bought a used 07 optima mag ss 26inch barrell trying to find a good load for that 200yd shot without having to be a foot high at 100.I live in the Fla. Keys and don’t have much opps. to get it dialed in before season, any suggestions
Sunday, 12. September 2010
Ray: It is sort of a “chicken and egg” kind of situation, isn’t it. I wish that I could give you a for sure answer, but unless some dealer in your area is carrying the gun, it will be impossible to see it. For sure, any dealer could order it from one of the major distributors — Ellett Brothers and Henry’s both have the APEX. As for retailers, if there is a Cabela’s near you, they do stock the CVA APEX, but be sure to call and check to be sure they have one before driving to far. The gun is selling very well, but I still get many inquiries from frustrated customers like you. Perhaps the more you guys keep asking for the gun, the more likely the dealers in your area are to bring a few in. Good luck! Dudley
Sunday, 12. September 2010
Barry: Just about any load is still going to require you to be at least a foot high at 100 to be dead on at 200. As for load suggestions, I’d recommended a 150 grain charge (3 pellets) of White Hots, a PowerBelt Platinum 270, and a full power 209 primer (not Triple 7 primers). What I do is sight in dead on at 100, then shoot at 200 to see how low I am. Then, if I do get a shot at 200, I can hold on the backbone and drop the bullet right into the vitals. Even if you are offf a little bit, you’ll still put the deer down. Good luck his season! Dudley
Tuesday, 5. October 2010
I have a CVA Staghorn S/N 61-13-046992-96 I bought it for my son Dustin, and when our house burned in 97 he went to live with his mother, he moved back in 2000 leaving the gun there in his gun cabinet, I got the gun back in 2005 and put it away as Dustin was killed by a drunk driver 3 weeks after returning home from Iraq in April of 05…..I called the customer service center just this morning as I just learned of the recall, they told me to send the gun back,UPS or Fed Ex so they can verify the S/N and then they would send me a brand new gun…….but I was hoping for only a replacement barrel like they did with the CVA apollo I had as this gun has much sentimental value, and I would have liked to shoot a deer or two with it as my son had done, but evidently he did not clean it before leaving for the Army and the barrel has a lot of rust inside, and I didn’t even look at it when my daughter brought it back, my wife just put it away in the closet where it sat till this morning………this recall leaves me in a sad situation, first if I send it back it’s gone forever in lieu of a new gun with absolutely zero memories attatched to it, second ……ups or fed ex would cost $50 if not more to send the gun back, and if I recall I only paid $99 for the whole gun…… the reason I’m upset about #2 is that with my old apollo they sent me a new barrel and asked me to destroy the old one, which I did………why the change? this gun is not shootable in my view due to all the rust inside, but every nick, scrape and scratch was put there by my son and I would like to keep it for sentimental value…….. Is there a way for you fellas to make this gun unshootable so I can have it back if I sent it in?…….This is my second go around with CVA and their barrel problems, first was great, no problem what so ever, but this time is much different, memories can never be replaced……..any suggestions?…Thanks,Steve Hartley, Proud Gold Star Father of Spc. Dustin R. Hartley,1/9 1st.Cav 9/25/81-4/25/05
Tuesday, 5. October 2010
Steve: Sure, I can help you out. We cannot just replace the barrel because we have no replacement barrels left. So, instead, just send me back the gun and I will have it made “unshootable” and I’ll return it to you. Also I’ll send you a new gun – along with enough free bullets to cover your shipping cost. Please include a copy of this email with the shipment.
Attn: Dudley McGarity
BPI
5988 Peachtree Corners E.
Norcross, GA 30071
My condolences for your loss. Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 5. October 2010
Now that’s what I call compassionate personal service. Good job Dudley!
Tuesday, 5. October 2010
That’s the type of response you would expect from a first class operation like CVA. Job well done Dudley
James Irby
Wednesday, 6. October 2010
Thank You Mr. McGarity,I’ll get it out friday if I can get my printer up and running so I can include the e mail you sent me, I sure appreciate what your doing, you have went above and beyond, and I’ll be a loyal CVA customer for the rest of my life, Kudos,Steve
Sunday, 10. October 2010
Mr. McGarity, I have a Missouri rifle in .50 cal that I purchased new in the mid 90’s . Year after year I have continued to have great success hunting deer with this rifle while my hunting buddies have all moved to the newer in-line models. I have always been impressed by its accuracy and dependibility. My question to you is : Where can I find a replacement barrel for it? I had a water leak and believe it or not ,water dripping from a leak above went right into my barrel and has pretty much “done it in”.Please advise. Thanks Bill
Monday, 11. October 2010
Dudley, I bought a KA723 Hawken rifle kit in the mid 70’s and never got around to putting it together. I rediscovered it the other day and am going to give it a try. If any of the screws etc are missing will I be able to get more? Also what can I shoot in it as far as powder and bullets. It is a 50 cal and I have no idea what the rate of twist is on the riflings.
Thaks John
Tuesday, 19. October 2010
I have an old CVA Plainsman from 1990. I was in the ARMY for 6 years and my dad used it and never cleaned it. It was pretty rusty but I cleaned it this year. I want to know if you can shoot conical bullets or just patched round ball through it. Also can you get stainless nipples for it.
Tuesday, 19. October 2010
Bill: That replacement barrel might be difficult to find. Best bet is to contact Deer Creek Products at 765-525-6181. Good luck, Dudley
Tuesday, 19. October 2010
John: Yes, just call our Customer Service Department if you are missing anything from the CVA Muzzleloader kit. Twist rate is 1:48, so any conical bullet (including PowerBelts) should give you good accuracy. Dudley
Tuesday, 19. October 2010
Robert: The Plainsman was a 1:48 twist, so a conical would work best. Even a PowerBelt should work. Round ball barrels are 1:66 twist. Good hunting, Dudley
Tuesday, 19. October 2010
Thanks for the info. One more question, can you convert the #11 to 209 or is it not worth it.
Tuesday, 19. October 2010
Robert: There probably are some kits for converting to 209, but, with sidelocks, most people convert to Musket Cap. All you have to do is buy the Musket Cap nipple. You can get it at http://www.cva.com. Click the “Store” tab. AC1425 is the style number. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 26. October 2010
Dudley, Both guns arrived last evening safe and sound,Thank You so much!! The Wolf looks very nice and I sure like the Quick release breach plug, but I do have a question, I opened up the 2 packs of 295gr. powerbelts you sent along and checked them out, there are flat spots on the crown area and sides of these like they were dropped, 1 or two spots per bullet and a lot of these spots are pretty good size too, 1/8″wx1/4-3/8″L and I’m wondering if these flat spots will affect the accuracy at all?, again ,Thank you,Steve
Tuesday, 26. October 2010
Steve: I would not think so. Shoot them and let me know. Thanks, Dudley
Wednesday, 27. October 2010
Dudley, I am new to muzzleloaders. I was given a CVA Eclipse Hunter .50 cal today; but it didn’t come with a manual and i’m pretty sure there should have been some accesories but i didnt get those either. Could you give me some info on what to look for and what i need to get started? Thank you, Russ
Wednesday, 27. October 2010
Russ: First, check the serial number to be sure that it does not end in a 95 or 96. If it does, then it is a recall gun, as discussed in the article above, and you’ll need to call us for replacement — 770-449-4687. You can access the manual online at http://www.cva.com, or order one from our Customer Service Department at 770-449-4687. As for other info, your best bet is to watch the MUZZLELOADING BASICS video at http://www.cva.com. It has chapters on all key aspects of loading, shooting, cleaning, safety, etc. Everything that a new shooter like you needs to know. Good Hunting, Dudley
Wednesday, 27. October 2010
it ends is 00. Thank you for all the good info!
Thursday, 28. October 2010
Dudley, I had a retired gunsmith take a look at the Eclipse Hunter that I asked you about yesterday. Found out I need a new trigger assembly because the metal piece that has the forward screw(screw on top of the tigger) is broken; so the bolt won’t stay back and hence will not fire. Long story short my gunsmith told me to bring him a new trigger assembly and he would fix it for me. Where might I find one? I can email you a picture of the broken assembly if you would like. Thank you, Russ
Thursday, 28. October 2010
Dudely, second question I had: If this gun is fixed up a little bit, how much could I expect to get for it? I want to buy a new one, thought maybe I could offset the cost by selling this one. Thank you, Russ
Thursday, 28. October 2010
Dudley, I shot the gun and powerbelts yesterday, took all of 4 shots to get it in at 1″ high at 70yds. and the next two just enlarged the hole, it was very gusty and I was shooting off the hood of my truck so I wasn’t very stable, but I must give you Kudos on this gun, it shoots great, hardly any recoil felt due to the awesome buttpad, and it has to be the easiest cleanup ever due to the quick release breach plug, I am impressed and if the flat spots made a difference ,I sure couldn’t tell……Thanks a million!,Steve
Thursday, 28. October 2010
Dudly
I have the Accura 50 cal is it ok to shoot 150grs of 777 Mag or White Hots?
Thanks
James
Thursday, 28. October 2010
James: Absolutely. The Acucra is a Magnum Gun. Dudleu
Tuesday, 2. November 2010
Russ: Considering that essentially the same model can be purchased new for about $149, I doubt if you could get much more than about $100, if that. These style guns are outdated. Guns like the CVA Optima and CVA Wolf are so much easier to load and clean. Therefore, they have taken over the market. Sorry, no “Antiques Road Show” good news here! Best regards, Dudley
Thursday, 4. November 2010
I have just recently learned of the recall for 95-95 CVA muzzleloaders. I have a CVA Firebolt, has there been any issues with this model, my
serial #61-13-023447-97. I have recently purchased a CVA Wolf and love it.
I need a replacement trigger for the firebolt if i want to use it in the future.
Can you send me a part # for this.
Thursday, 4. November 2010
Jeremy: The FireBolt was not part of the recall. I’ll have one of our Customer Service Reps contact you regarding the part number. Glad you like your CVA Wolf. Good hunting, Dudley
Saturday, 20. November 2010
i just purchased a cva kodiak pro stainless i was wondering the shop i brought it at said there’s no reason to use 150 grs. of powder to hunt whitetail the only difference would be the kick. i sighted it in with 100 grs and am getting flack from some fellow hunters for not useing 150 for more knockdown power. how much would it throw off my shots if i put the 150 now
Saturday, 20. November 2010
I currently own 2 CVA guns; a .50 cal Mountain Rifle (#0416) and a .50 cal Mountain Pistol (#000263). The rifle I bought after wanting one for about 20 years. The pistol was actually given to me back in the 80’s by a fellow who found the kit in a landfill! All that was there was the lock, stock, and barrel, literally. I bought all the rest of the parts and assembled it. Both weapons have given me good service for a number of years, and have proven to be well made and strong. I look forward to shooting them for many years to come, as they are excellent weapons.
Sunday, 21. November 2010
Ralph: As is usually the case, the guy at the shop is better informed than are your buddies. You actually get no more “knock down power” at ranges of 100 yards or less by using a 150 grain charge. In fact, at ranges under 100 yards, magnum loads can sometimes cause bullets to underperform — expanding too quickly on impact. In my opinion, the only time that magnum charges might be “necessary” is for long range shooting — meaning beyond 100 yards — as it reduces drop and, once beyond 100 yards — keeps the bullet traveling a few yards further at optimal speed (about 1600 to 1800 FPS). This is true for your CVA Kodiak Magnum, or any other muzzleloader. Good shooting, Dudley
Sunday, 21. November 2010
K: That CVA Mountain Rifle is one heck of a gun. I have one in flintlock that is one heck of a gun. My favorite muzzleloader of all. As for the pistol, that is a great story. As the saying goes: “One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.” Certainly true in this case. Good shooting, Dudley
Wednesday, 24. November 2010
I am thinking if getting a muzzleloader to shoot up here in Wisconsin and extend my deer season…..I like the looks of the CVA, especially the Apex……but I can not help but wonder why none of the big shot TV hunters are shooting CVA muzzleloaders….it makes me wonder a bit.
Any comments?
Wednesday, 24. November 2010
Potential: Big Shots can be had, for the price of sponsoring their shows. We don’t spend as much in advertising as one of our competitors. Just one of the reasons you get so much more gun for your money with CVA. Best regards, Dudley
Friday, 26. November 2010
Well I just bought a brand new in the box 2009 CVA Accura at one of those black Friday sales this morning. I just happened to see the advertisement in the paper yesterday. Total price with tax was $295.98. So now let the games begin. I really like the looks of it, and the way it handles. It fits me well….now we will see when I get it loaded and fired. I will keep you posted.
Formally Mr. Potential who is now Mr. CVA customer and Accura shooter.
Saturday, 27. November 2010
Hello Dudley et al. I have an older (1980 ‘ish) CVA .50 Cal. Mountain Pistol Kit that I built back then. I am missing the screw that holds the belt clip on and probably the gun together. Do you know if they would have any old parts for this nice piece? I did send a note to info@cva.com . My buddy has one complete (he did not loose a screw) and it is a barrel buster! By that I mean knocks a hell of a hole in a barrel. Fun to shoot, sturdy and quite handsome. Best, Dana B.
Sunday, 28. November 2010
Dana: Your best bet for finding these old parts for CVA rifles and pistols is Deer Creek Products. The owner’s name is Erwin Fagel. Phone number is 765-525-6181. Good luck, Dudley
Wednesday, 1. December 2010
After reading the entire post, I have decided to purchase a CVA Apex for my 13 year old. I am impressed with Mr. McGarity’s accessibility and commitment to 100% customer satisfaction. I currently use a Knight that I purchased over 15 years ago and my son killed a nice deer with it several weeks ago at approximately 125 yards. It’s time for him to have his own quality muzzle loader that will serve him well for years to come. As for the Knight, I would love to get some trade in value towards the new Apex purchase. LOL
Wednesday, 1. December 2010
New Fan: Thanks for the kind words. The CVA APEX is my favorite muzzleloader in our line for sure, but for a 13 year old you might also want to look at the CVA Accura V2. Accuracy wise, it will perform the same as the APEX — becuase it uses the same Bergara Barrel — but it is a good bit lighter in weight than the APEX. The APEX is heavier because it has a steel frame, which is necessary for use with center-fire barrels. So, if the center-fire interchangablity is not important to your son, the Accura V2 may be the better choice. It is also less expensive. Good shooting, Dudley
Saturday, 4. December 2010
I just purchased a new Wolf. What would be the recomended , load & grain
bullet, at 100yrds. I live in the WI Northwoods, and have shots more then 100 yds.
Thanks in Advance
Please respond ASAP.
Saturday, 4. December 2010
NOT More then 100 Yds. Shots
Saturday, 4. December 2010
Gene, is there a breach plug conversion kit for a Optima?
Saturday, 4. December 2010
Gene: For the best all around load, I would recommend a 295 grain PowerBelt AeroTip, 2 White Hots Pellets, and Winchester 209 (W209) Primers. If you cannot find the White Hots, use Pyrodex Pellets. Other than not being as clean as the White Hots, they will work fine. You should get great results. Let me know how you do. Good shooting, Dudley
Saturday, 4. December 2010
New Fan: The Optima breech plug works only with 209 primers. There is no “conversion kit.” What did you want to convert to? Dudley
Saturday, 4. December 2010
a way to make it so that the breach plug can be removed like the apex
Saturday, 4. December 2010
New Fan: Okay, I understand now. You have the old Optima. The new (2010) Optima has the same Quick Release Breech Plug as does the Apex. In fact, all of our break-action guns — CVA Wolf, CVA Optima, CVA Accura V2, and CVA APEX — now feature the QRBP. Unfortunately, the breech area of these new guns is a completely different dimension in order to accept the QRBP. Therefore, there is no QRBP conversion for the older guns. Sorry about that. Best regards, Dudley
Sunday, 5. December 2010
I own an apollo muzzle loader 50 cal serial number 694272. Is this one of the guns that were recalled for a safetey issue.
Sunday, 5. December 2010
I just purchased a new c.v.a. kodiak with a 29 in. fluted stainless barrell and this is the best gun i’ve ever shot . i had a wolf and was happy wiyh it but decided to pass it down this new gun is a dream to load and the most accurate i’ve ever shot thank you c.v.a
Monday, 6. December 2010
Dudley after reading some of the posts on here i wanted to know if a gun i bought my dad is safe to shoot it is a apollo with ser #61-13-066992-97
Monday, 6. December 2010
dudley after reading the posts on here i want to know if a gun i bought my dad is safe to shoot it is a apollo with ser#61-13-066992-97
Saturday, 11. December 2010
I bent my ramrod on my brand new Accura and need a replacement. Out of stock on line. Where else might I purchase one? Thank you for being accessible. I feel you have a great product.
Thanks
Thursday, 16. December 2010
Dudley, I have an old cva blazer a family friend gave to me i was wondering if I could trade it in for a new one if so how do i do it and about how much would it cost
Thursday, 16. December 2010
Dudley,
I am sold on CVA. I have the Optima Pro now and wanted to upgrade. What is the top of the line? Thank God Christmas is only once a year. I will order through Sports South if they have it in stock. I would also like to find out how to get some CVA promo items for the store. I own the store and my personal muzzleloaders have ALWAYS been CVA.
Mat
God, Guns, & Glory
Saturday, 18. December 2010
Mat: Thanks for the comments. I think you’ll do very well with the CVA muzzleloaders next year. All of our break actions — Accura V2, Optima, and Wolf — will come with the DuraSight Dead On Integral Scope mount as standard equipment. This is a $39.95 retail value included with the gun! I think that your customers will be very impressed with this added value. Good luck with your business next year and thanks for your support of CVA. Best regards, Dudley
Saturday, 18. December 2010
Dan: Only guns with serial numbers ending in 95 and 96 were recalled. Therefore, your 97 should be perfectly fine. Thanks, Dudley
Saturday, 18. December 2010
Ralph: Thanks for your comments on the CVA Kodiak. Actually, if yours has a 29 inch barrel it would be the Kodiak Pro model. Even though we no longer make this gun, it is still one of my personal favorites — as I had many successful hunt with it. Today, the break-action design is so popular that there was no room in our line for the “drop-block” style guns. Too bad, in my opinion, as the Kodiak is a great gun. Best regards, Dudley
Saturday, 18. December 2010
Uriah: Yes you can swap the old Blazer. How much it will cost you depends on the model you’d like to replace it with. Call our Customer Service Department at 770-449-4687 and one of our guys will take care of you. Note that we are moving our offices and warehouse this week, so you might want to wait until after New Year’s to call. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 20. December 2010
Mike: That Apollo is actually older than the recall guns, and of a different design. We never had any issues with those guns. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 20. December 2010
Thanks dudley i think im going to keep it but i did buy the apex and it is a great gun
Tuesday, 21. December 2010
There are 3 of us in the family all with newer model CVA muzzle loaders. Two of my relatives refuse to fire their weapons and my wife is concerned with me firing as well. One of them is a machinist by trade and he is concerned with the manufacturing of the barrels. We have all read the articles about the barrels being manufactured in Spain and some of the accidents that have happened. Can you tell me where all your newer barrels are made and what the process is?
Tuesday, 21. December 2010
Jon: As mentioned in the article above, all of our barrels are now made at a factory that is fully owned by our parent company. Prior to this, we outsourced barrels — meaning: we had an outside barrel company making our barrels for us. Our new manufacturing facility is called Bergara Barrels. You can see the entire barrel making process on video at http://www.BergaraBarrels.com. Best regards, Dudley
Wednesday, 22. December 2010
Dudley: I am thinking of buying the Apex muzzleloader, I have read all the reviews and even talked with a Pro Staff member from OPEN SEASON TV and I think I am going to be satisfied with the purchase. I have one question, If i purchase it I cannot find and rifle barrels to purchase for it they all seem to be out of stock. Any imput would help. Thanks InHunter31
Wednesday, 22. December 2010
InHunter31: Well, I have good news for you. Starting in 2011 you’ll be able to buy all APEX Bergara Barrels direct off of the http://www.cva.com web site. And, even better news, the prices will be right around $200, which is a heck of a deal. Thanks, Dudley
Wednesday, 22. December 2010
Dudley, Thanks for the imformation I hope to purchase one shortly so I can get ready for next season.
Monday, 27. December 2010
Dudley, I purchased 3 new Optima 209 thumbholes for Christmas. Two for my to two sons and one for myself. Can you recommend the best set up for these guns? We are brand new to hunting and have alot to learn. Just need somewhere to start. I know they will require a 209 primer….what about the bullets etc. Also, any input on a good gun safety course in Indiana?
Tuesday, 28. December 2010
Bill: Awesome! The Optima Thumbhole is a great gun and I am sure you will be happy with them. As for the load, I would shoot 100 grains (two pellets) of IMR White Hots. This is a very clean shooting, and also very accurate, propellant. Be sure to use a “full power” primer, like the Winchester W209. As for bullets, if you plan to shoot now, get either PowerBelt Copper 295 grain AeroTips or PowerBelt Platinum 270. In a couple of months, you’ll see a new PowerBelt Bullet called the AeroLite. These are incredible. They come in either 250 grain or 300, and either would be great for whitetails. As for instruction, go to http://www.cva.com and watch all chapters of the MUZZLELOADING BASICS instructional video. This video course will give you all of the information that you need to safely and effectively load, shoot, and clean your new CVA Optima rifles. Thanks for buying CVA muzzleloaders and best of luck to you and your sons in your muzzleloading adventures. Dudley
Wednesday, 29. December 2010
Dudley, thanks for all the info. A final question (for now) our Optimas came with scopes out of the box from Dick’s Sporting Goods. The original sights did not come with the gun. Do these have to be purchased to convert back or should they have come in the box? Also, the threaded holes where the sights were are open. Should there be a set screw of some type inserted? I can see those threads either rusting or becoming filled with debris. Thanks again for your wisdom…
Thursday, 30. December 2010
Bill: Sight are not included with scope equipped guns, but we do have them available for purchase. As for the sight hole plugs, we can send you those at no charge. Out right now, but we should have some within two months. Just call our Customer Service Team at 770-449-4687 and they will take care of you. Best regards, Dudley
Saturday, 1. January 2011
I have purchased a cva accura and am having problems getting groups.I have shot cci and fusion primers along with powerbelts and hornady 300 gr as for powder pyrodex pellets triple 7 pellets and triple7 powder nothing seems to be working.
Saturday, 1. January 2011
Ken: That is very unusual for a CVA Accura. If you cannot work it out, send the gun back to us for repair or replacement. As you may know, CVA guarantees the Accura to be the most accurate muzzleloader you have ever shot or your money back. We mean it. We will check it out and either repair it or replace it. The only ones we have seen that do not shoot great are if there is some flaw in the crown. We have seen 6 or 8 of those out of all we have sold. I want you to be happy with your CVA Accura! Best regards, Dudley
Saturday, 1. January 2011
Any ideas on what I should try next or should the combinations I have tried worked
Saturday, 1. January 2011
Ken: I think you probably have tried enough. The CVA Accura is just not that particular. It should shoot good groups with the componets you are using. I shoot White Hots propellant, but I don’t think that the powder or primers should cause you to have such poor results. If you want, you can just send us the barrel along with a note to recrown the muzzle and we can try that. Or, you can just return the entire gun. Your call. Thanks, Ducley
Sunday, 16. January 2011
Dudley: I just started muzzle loading this year. I borrowed one for this year. It was a tomson arter my own research. I went with a cva apex i bought it from carlos who i have known several years. I went with blackhorn 209 and 250gr Barnes T-EZ bullets. First time out after sight in I shot 1″ 3 shot groups at 100 yards. Second trip I am shooting 3/4″ groups. I looked at all the muzzle loaders before I bought one. This is hands down the best gun on the market. The quialty is second to none. Thanks for a great prouduct. I am 100% black powder now and love it. Keep up the great work Larry
Tuesday, 18. January 2011
Larry: Thanks for the report. I love to hear stories like yours, and I hear a lot of them about the CVA APEX and the CVA ACCURA. No doubt, it is the Bergara Barrels that make them so accurate. You can learn all about them a http://www.BergaraBarrels.com. Keep up the great shooting. Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 18. January 2011
MR.McGARITY.HI,MY NAME IS JIM COOPER FROM OHIO.I JUST READ YOUR COMMENTS ON THE TRUTH ABOUT CVA MUZZLELOADERS.I LOVE CVA MUZZLELOADERS AND WOULDN’T TAKE ANYTHING ELSE.SIR,ABOUT 0NE AND A HALF YEARS AGO I BOUGHT A NEW CVA ACCURA.I HAVE OUT SHOT MY BROTHER AND A COUPLE OF HIS FRIENDS THAT HAVE THE FAMOUS T/C’S.THE REASON I AM WRITING TO YOU IS THAT I AM A VETERAN ON DISABILITY,AND I HAVE SEEN THENEW ACCURA V2,AND I LOVE IT.I WANT TO GET ONE,BUT MY FUNDS ARE LIMITED.ANYWAY,I SAW WHERE YOU TOLD ANOTHER MAN WHO HAS AN ACCUR TOO THAT HE COULD PUT A NEW ACCUR V2 BARREL ON HIS OLD ACCURA.I CALLED DOWN TO THE SERVICE AND SPOKERTO DAVE ABOUT THIS AND HE TOLD ME THAT IT WAS IMPOSSIBE TO PUT THE ACURRA V2 ON THE OLD FRAME.THEPERSONTHAT ASKD YOU THIS IS JAMES IRBY BACK IN SEPT.1 2010.AS A MATTER OF FACT I AM LOOKING AT THE SIGHT RIGHT NOW.THE REASON I WOULD LIKE THE ACCURA V2 BAREL IA THAT I HAVE REUMATOID ARTHRITIS IN MY RIGHT THUMD AND AND THE NEXT TWO FFINGERS AND IT IS HARD FOR ME TO USE A BREECH PLUG WRENCH. AND THE NEW QRBP WOULD HELP ME QUITE A BIT.BUT ALL JOKING ASIDE,I HAVE SHOT A BLACK BEAR,A 6X6 BULL ELK AND AN 11 POINT BUCK WITH MY ACCURA.TO ME THERE IS NO GREATER MUZZLELOPADER THAN THE CVA ACCURA!!! MY HOME PHONE IS 419-462-0170,AND 98% OF THE TIMEI AM HOME AND CAN BE REACHED.I DO HOPE TO HEAR FOM YOU AND THANK YOU FOR AGREAT PRODUCT AND YOUR TIME FOR READING THIS, SINCERELY, JIM COOPER.
Thursday, 20. January 2011
I have a Kodiak pro that was given to me. I am haveing a hard time geting it to fire the frist time I pull the trigger. I think it’s about 3 years old. Am I doing somthing wrong?????? Please if you could help me out here,,, thank you…..Jim
Thursday, 20. January 2011
I ‘m having trouble finding relacement parts for a CVA black powder only 50 caliber muzzleloader serial #0009711. Do you know where I can get parts and what year this gun was manufactured?
Sunday, 30. January 2011
I have a older cva plainsman 50 cal got it as a kit in the 80’s it shots great. My question is can you shoot sabots though this rifle. I have shot round balls and 385gn hollow points though it no problems with 120gn’s of powders.
Sunday, 30. January 2011
Bill: The twist rate of your CVA Plainsman Rifle is most likely 1:48. This is considered as too slow for optimal performance with sabots, as they usually do best with a 1:32 or faster twist rate. Probably, either pure lead conicals or PowerBelts (if you want to try a more modern projectile) will give you the best performance. Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 1. February 2011
Jimmie: Probably a weak hammer spring. Send it to us and we can repair it. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 1. February 2011
Bennie: I’d say the gun is at least 20 years old, but cannot give you an exact date. Parts for these can usually be obtained from Deer Creek Products at 765-525-6181. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 1. February 2011
Jim: For sure an Accura V2 barrel could be fitted to the original Accura frame. The question is, however, would it be econimically feasible? Since the barrel is the most expensive part of the gun, doing such a swap would probably cost more than the convenience of the Quick Release Breech Plug would be worth — about $200. In you particular situation, with the arthritis and all, the QRBP would likely be just as if not more difficult to remove — as all the pressure would have to be hand pressure rather than being aided with the tool. Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 1. February 2011
Sir thank you for your reply on the Kodiak Pro that does not aways fire on the frist pull . Ran into guy a range while shooting and he said that model was made with a safety feature where as you must pull the trigger back fast and hard , if pulled to slowly it would not fire to prevent and accidental firering. How does that sound to you, was he pulling my leg????
Wednesday, 2. February 2011
Jimmie: Well, let’s just say that if he was not pulling your leg he was misinformed. Obviously, any “safety feature” that worked as described would make accurate shooting impossible. To return your gun for repair, send it to BPI, CVA Repairs, 1685 Boggs Rd., Suite 300, Duluth, GA, 30096. Thanks, Dudley
Saturday, 5. February 2011
Hello Mr Dudley McGarity ; My name is John Benoit I have been trying to get my CVA Apex mod. CR4012S/.50 from your Company since last Sept. 2010 .First your people said 4-6 wks. Ok no problem , Wait and wait and did say wait . Called again problem with paperwork , it’s on it’s way , wait and wait and wait some more . Called gun shop that we ordered it through , they called your people they say we did not Order it ? That is funny because because they sent half of the order that the Apex was on ? So who is snowing who . Gun shop had to replace Order so how long will it be this time ? ( IF THEY DON’T LOSE IT AGAIN ) Thank you John Benoit
Saturday, 5. February 2011
Hello Mr Dudley McGarity ; I am sorry i forgot to include the Gun shop information that i Ordered the CVA Apex through . The store is Epps sporting goods in Orillia Ontario Canada . Please feel free to call them ask for Adam he placed the Order, He can give you the whole story . There phone # is 705 689 – 5333 ask for Adam that way you will get it from the horses mouth . Again Thank You for your Time . John Benoit London Ontario Canada
Monday, 7. February 2011
John: Sorry for the issues you are having. Unfortunately, we do not yet have the paperwork approved for exporting firearms into Canada. Muzzleloaders, yes, but not center-fire guns (“firearms” by legal definition). Probably, the other part of the order that was received was for CVA muzzleloading guns and/or accessories. Hopefully, we will get this resolved soon and get permission to ship the CVA APEX and CVA SCOUT to Canada. Best regards, Dudley
Monday, 7. February 2011
Hello Mr. McGarity . The firearm that i ordered was the CVA Apex CR4012S/.50 cal. muzzleloader , not a centerfire i already have all the centerfires that i need. I do hope we can get this resolved soon , Thank you again for your help John Benoit
Wednesday, 9. February 2011
John: Because the APEX frame will accept center-fire barrels the gun is legally classified as a “firearm” rather than a “muzzleloader.” Therefore, we cannot currently export the APEX to Canada. However, you can get an ACCURA V2, which has the same barrel, trigger, etc. as the APEX, but is a “muzzleloader only” gun. Also, it will cost you less money that the APEX. Thanks, Dudley
Thursday, 10. February 2011
Mr. McGarity I have friends that own tc’s and swear by them, quoting made in usa, best customer service, most dependable, best warranty, most accurate, and on and on. One has even mentioned this black powder expert Randy Wakeman and his findings on CVA products. Wakeman needs to find a new hobby. I have owned an optima, accura, and now the apex .50 ML and just ordered the 7mm-08 barrel from cva today for 219.00. One friend had to barrow the optima for the 2010 ml season because he didnt get his tc back in time. His trigger assy broke while sighting in a new scope in august. I believe CVA makes superior rifles and Bergara has the best barrels on the market today. I have pointed my friends to Mike Bellm’s web site to see what it takes to make there rifles as accurate as mine is right out of the box. I know that the $ my friend spent on his pro hunter is what I spent on my apex with a Leupold VX III mounted, second barrel and a cabela’s top of the line canvas gun case made for the tc. Keep up the good work Dudley, you guys at BPI are doing everything just right!
Thursday, 10. February 2011
I do have a question, cr4204s is a part number for a barrel chambered for the .270 wsm. Will this be available soon for the apex?
Thursday, 10. February 2011
Red: Thanks for your kind words about CVA muzzleloaders. I love to hear from happy customers! As for the .270 WSM, we have no plans at present to offer that calibler. At one time we did consider it, but due to a lack of interest from our dealers we decided not to do it. Their opinion was that the short magnum design was most applicable to bolt action guns, where the benefit was using a medium rather than a long action. With a single shot gun, like the APEX, their is no such shortening of length or reduction of weight. Thanks, Dudley
Saturday, 12. February 2011
As the CEO of BPI, I believe you too have a bias and also a financial interest.
Saturday, 12. February 2011
Mr. McGarity, just wanted to complement you on having kept up this dialogue with your customers. It’s refreshing to see a business leader who cares about what customers think. I’m a product Optima Elite owner and thoroughly enjoy your products. Keep up the good work.
Monday, 14. February 2011
Today UPS brought me my first muzzleloader a CVA Optima 209 magnum PR2016s everything i have read and watched said to consult the manual that comes with it about powder charge and bullit type and weight. but when i opened the box all thair was was the rifle. some help and guidence with this info would be greatly appreciated. p.s. i mounted the scope and went to the range anyway used 100 grains of white hots and after 4 rounds ti sight it in put 3 rounds dead center @ 100 yards i love it.
Tuesday, 15. February 2011
Teresa: If by having direct knowledge of the actions and intentions of most of the people within our buisness, I guess you could say that I would have an informed bias. And, yes, I do receive a paycheck. Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 15. February 2011
Rich: Thank you for your comment. It is my pleasure to communicate with our customers. In fact, some of the best product ideas we have ever implemented came from customer suggestions. I am very pleased that you have enjoyed your CVA Optima Elite. Good shooting, Dudley
Tuesday, 15. February 2011
Jon: Great story on the accuracy! Indeed, the new CVA Optima is a very accuracte gun, especially for the price. For sure, you should have received the instruction manual in the box. Sorry that it was missing. You can obtain one by calling our Customer Service Department at 770-449-4687. In the meantime, you can find the manual at http://www.CVA.com. Best regards, Dudley
Thursday, 17. February 2011
Sure, I could talk up CVA’s guns all day, but my delight today is in the openness of this blog and Mr. McGarity’s responsiveness to customers right here. Dudley, your response to Steve Hartley back on October 5th floored me. Now, I won’t label anyone as irresponsible if he wants to spend more for a frontstuffer than it would cost him to get a late-model CVA. If you want an American-made model with a famous hunting guide’s endorsement, and are willing to put out what it costs to fine-tune one, then more power to you. If that gun just feels better to you, then suit yourself and be glad there are choices. Just because I like my Ford Ranger doesn’t mean Toyota should stop selling Tacoma trucks. And my point there is that CVA touts its models’ advantages well, without tearing down anyone else in the market through misleading advertising or by perpetuating negative rumors. And for that reason, more so than even the indisputably great value for the dollar, I’m taking my tax refund and putting it down on an Apex next week… just to make sure I have my next gun ready some day when I’ve shot out my old non-CVA rifle’s barrel. I really don’t need another rifle right now, CVA or otherwise, and just because I vote for one company to be #1 doesn’t mean I mistrust #2. But I’m voting for CVA’s company attitude with my consumer dollar next week, as I have several times in the past and as I do regularly when I run low on Barrel Blaster, patches, or have given away my last 4-in-1 Loader to a new friend I met at the range. (Those made great stocking stuffers this past Christmas!)
My favorite frontstuffer is another manufacturer’s sole muzzleloader market entry, on which I had to spend a bit of time and money in the aftermarket to get “right,” but I keep a post-recall CVA Apollo dialed in as a backup, and I sit in a twin-seat stand every December with my disabled best friend whose safety is as important to me as if he were my biological brother. His rifle? A CVA Buckhorn 209 which I bought, scoped, accessorized, zeroed, and gave to him on the occasion of his military retirement. A “pedestrian” model to be certain, but his 8-point Iowa buck on the wall (and several does in the freezer) were hit squarely and dispatched as cleanly as any other lung-shot deer I’ve ever helped haul to the processor. I won’t go into load information, but each of those aforementioned CVA rifles has withstood several hundred full-power loads (though not “maximum,” I don’t need an elephant load to kill a deer at 75 yards from an Iowa tree stand). Routine inspection of bore, breech plug threads, joinder of barrel to receiver extension, and other critical pressure containment areas show no signs of weakness or degradation. Probably the main reason I haven’t bought any newer CVA guns is simply that my buddy and I haven’t been able to wear out the ones we already have!
And for those who might question Mr. McGarity’s objectivity: Who among us with executive aspirations wouldn’t want to be CEO of a company that can deliver products he knows he himself can trust, is worth defending from slander and libel, and which has found the enviable balance between mass production for lowered consumer cost and responsiveness to customer desires? Dudley McGarity’s personal level of technical knowledge, as shown in this blog, tells me that he’s not just a CEO – he’s also a shooter. One online personality whose adverse editorials about CVA continue to initially deter potential new customers also has nothing good to say about my favorite propellant, which has thus far accounted for considerable seasonal income for my friendly neighborhood game processor. Just because he didn’t like it ten years ago doesn’t mean it can’t be top-drawer for my needs now.
Shop elsewhere if you prefer a different syle, shape, weight, balance, color or whatever, but for your own sake, don’t pass over CVA’s offerings just because of some outdated, misinformed, and just plain wrong assertion about the company’s integrity. And even if you do buy something else, keep checking in on CVA. Chances are, if there’s anyone else out there who wants what you want in a rifle, CVA will soon introduce something new and responsive to your desires.
Thursday, 17. February 2011
CVA Apex and CVA Optima Pro owner in Canada.
Hello Dudley it has been a pleasure to read these posts and see they great insight you provide to customers and potential customers. I was able to purchase the CVA Apex in Canada. Basspro back in 2009 had a few and was able to get one for me. Alot of Canadian customers understand the product CVA delivers are top notch. Hope the export papers get cleared up shortly as alot of Canadian customers would love to get there hands on CVA products. Every dealer I know that sells them in Canada is sold out. Trust me the more product you can provide to dealers like Basspro they more Canadians would own CVA products.
Understand John (customer) frustration. Great product just need more availabilty in Canada. Heck I just waiting to purchase a 243 barrel for my CVA Apex.
pbonura
Friday, 18. February 2011
Pbonura: Thanks for the comments. I am happy that Bass Pro could get you your APEX. We are making progress and have already been able to ship our center-fire only CVA Scout into four Canada Distributors. We have a few issues remaining with the APEX but we are progressing rapidly. Should be able to ship up there in a month or two if all goes well. Best regards, Dudley
Friday, 18. February 2011
Jody: Thank you for your post. I appreciate very much your perspectives on our company and products. Best regards, Dudley
Saturday, 19. February 2011
Hello Dudley
Just wondering if you can provide some names of the distributors. I am looking either for CVA Apex barrel or Scout and would like to give some of those distributors a call. Looking for a yote gun.
I am a happy CVA customer and own the Apex and Optima Pro.
Thanks,
pbonura
Saturday, 19. February 2011
Hello Dudley
Just wondering if you can provide some names of the distributors. I am looking either for CVA Apex barrel or Scout and would like to give some of those distributors a call. Looking for a yote gun.
I am a happy CVA customer and own the Apex and Optima Pro. Regards and Thanks,
pbonura
Monday, 21. February 2011
pbonura: In Quebec it is Peche Sports. In Toronto it is North Sylva. Your local dealer sould be familiar with one of these. Best regards, Dudley
Monday, 21. February 2011
Dudley
I havea CVA Accura 50 cal. After deer season ended this year ( about four weeks vago ) my rifle is still loaded. I remove the primer after each days hunt. Now that season is gone the two 50gr charges of 777 pellets and Power Belt bullet is still in my gun. Do I need to remove them?, Will it cause corrosion if I leave in until I can shoot it next time ?Or do I need to remove breech plug and empty the bullet and charge this way. Please advise.
James
Monday, 21. February 2011
James: For sure you need to unload it, as leaving the charge in could cause your barrel to corrode — and you run the danger of either you or someone esle double loading the rifle. All you have to do is take out the breech plug and push the load out with your ramrod. Then, clean the gun to remove any residue. Best regards, Dudley
Thursday, 24. February 2011
Hey Dudley,
I went to order an Apex from Dick’s Sporting who gets from Jerry’s and Bill Hicks and they are still out when will more come in???
Thursday, 24. February 2011
i sympathize with randy on this when i was trying to buy my cva dicks ran me around and when i called cva thay told me thair were more than 2000 available finally i just ordered it direct from the web site. it was more expencive but 6 days later i lit it up for the first time,
if i had any comment / sugjestion for mr mcgarity it would be to take a better look at distributers in mass.
p.s. thay did offer me an omega and said it was a “better” gun
Friday, 25. February 2011
DUDLEY,HI.JIMCOOPER HERE.AFTER I WENTTHROUGH YOUR INVENTORY OF GUNS AND EQUIPMENT,I CAME ACROSS AN ITEMTHAT I VERY MUCH LIKE . IT HAS A PRODUCT NUMBER OF PR2016SSC.COULD I GET INFORMATION ON THE AVAILABILITY AND DEALERS ON THIS PRODUCT.I LIVE IN CENTRAL OHIO AND DON;T KNOW IF THIS IS A SPECIAL.THANK YOU,JIM COOPER
Tuesday, 1. March 2011
jon h: Thanks for the info and the advice. We have our reps on it now. Hopefully you will see more of the CVA APEX on your local Dealer’s shelves this year. Just about any Dealer should be able to special order one from one of our Distributors — Jerry’s, Ellett Brothers, Henry’s, W. L. Baumler, Zander’s, etc. Good luck, Dudley
Tuesday, 1. March 2011
Randy: Ditto message to Jon. Dudley
Tuesday, 1. March 2011
Jim: The PR2016SSC is the Optima Thumbhole Black/Blued Scope Combo. It comes with the gun, Konus 3-9×40 Ballistic Reticle Scope, and CVA soft gun case. It will be done this year as a Special Make Up for Dunham’s Sporting Goods. So, if you have a Dunham’s near by, they will have it — probably mid-summer. Thanks, Dudley
Wednesday, 2. March 2011
Dudley: I have a .54 Bobcat, with synthetic stock, of which I am very fond. I’ve owned it @ 10 years. After switching to a musket nipple & cap and some other minor mods, it is dependable and accurate. George
Wednesday, 2. March 2011
George: Yes, more than a few years ago that old CVA Bobcat was the workhorse of the CVA line. It is good to see that a few are still out there on the job. Thanks for sharing your experince with your CVA muzzleloader. Best regards, Dudley
Thursday, 3. March 2011
Mr. McGarity, My daughter recently purchased an older 50 cal. Plainsman rifle. On the barrel is marked CVA. Inc. but also made in Spain. Serial # 836054. Can you tell me how old this weapon is and is it safe for her to shoot? Also, How can I get a catolog of parts and newer guns.Thank you. Virginia.
Thursday, 3. March 2011
Virginia: This CVA Plainsman was made in the late 1980s. As with any used gun, you should have it checked out by a gunsmith prior to use. Once it is certified as being in usable condition, you’ll have best luck using pure lead conical bullets or round balls in this gun, as it is a 1:48 twist. Also, the PowerBelt Bullet should give good accuracy. You can download the instruction book at http://www.cva.com/pdfs/Side.pdf. Best regards, Dudley
Thursday, 3. March 2011
Dudley: Thanks for taking the time to respond to the questions from CVA owners….It is a wonderful service…
Thursday, 3. March 2011
George: You are very welcome. It is our pleasure to be accessable to our customers. Best regards, Dudley
Friday, 4. March 2011
Dudley, Thanks for the quick reply. Although you do not have to, you are providing a wonderful service to past and present customers. Virginia.
Sunday, 6. March 2011
at our dicks sporting goods here in the phoenix area they have the optima pro in 308 and3006. are there going to be outher barrels made ? they said the optama pro rifle is being discontinued. thanks mike
Monday, 7. March 2011
Mike: The Optima Elite is indeed discontinued. It was replaced by the CVA APEX. However, we do still sell barrels for the Optima Elite. You can see them at http://www.BergaraBarrels.com. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 8. March 2011
Have an old 1984 CVA 12ga. double. Parts still available?. Thanks
Tuesday, 8. March 2011
Archie: We do not have any of those parts remaining here. However, you might be able to find them at Deer Creek Products. Phone number is 765-525-6181. Good luck, Dudley
Friday, 11. March 2011
All Posters: Looks like we are having problems with the Wordpress system. If you posted here since March 8, please resubmit your post. Sorry for the problems. Thanks, Dudley
Saturday, 26. March 2011
I just picked up what must have been an early Mountain Rifle kit gun (USA barrel/octagon thimbles) which someone almost finished, and then someone used it for hunting. The gun’s all there except for barrel wedges (no big deal) and patchbox, Apparently, they just never installed it. Someone said the early four-screw boxes are not interchangeable with the later two-screws. Is this true? I can find a new, unused two-screw patchbox but don’t want to buy it if it’s different than the stock mortise.
Thanks in advance!
And, BTW, great site!
Saturday, 2. April 2011
Dear Mr. Dudley McGarity,
I recently had a bad experience with CVA. For over a year I have been looking for a replacement barrel for my CVA Optima Elite 50 cal ML. To no avail I decided to either ask CVA if they were still producing barrels for this rifle or should I consider a new rifle purchase. I called CVA and spoke to someone in sales. He explained that barrels were still being produced in limited quantities. I told him I’ve been looking for over a year on their site and it still says “OUT OF STOCK”. I asked if I should just consider purchasing a new rifle? He said if I wanted too. Great, I hear T/C has a lot of factory and aftermarket barrels. “That’s not what i said sir”. No what he said was that product was “OBSOLETE” and it would be hard to find a replacement barrel. The conversation went on for sometime before I asked to speak to someone else who could help me. He said “THERE IS NO ONE ELSE WHO CAN HELP YOU”. I finally gave him one last chance, “What do I do with an obsolete product?” He directed me to their website and said there were 50 cal ML barrels in stock. I said I was on the site and it said “OUT OF STOCK”. He said to refresh the page. He just added inventory to that page item. Well today I got my barrel. It is covered in nicks and blemishes which tells me he got it out of the seconds bin. Whatever, as long as its safe. CVA doesn’t need that kind of bad press again. I understand that producing a product requires resources. CVA makes a great product but does have the aftermarket support or resources to maintain their current line and their OBSOLETE lines. No one likes to invest in a product that has no or a limited future. It sucks that he used the word OBSOLETE. Maybe my resource$ would be better spent on a company with the secondary markets or the resources to keep their products from becoming OBSOLETE.
Have a great day
Saturday, 2. April 2011
I have a cva mag,hunter harvested alot deer with it. I can and will say never a problem next cva a 45cal of any kind cva rifle again no problem!
Saturday, 2. April 2011
I bought my optima pro in 2004 as a shooter who ask for more.Cva rocks keep up the good work.
Monday, 4. April 2011
Redfeather: The early guns did have four screws. Also had Douglas barrels. These are the most rare and valuable of the old CVA Mountain Rifles. Let me know the serial number on your gun and I will see if we can find the correct patch box. Best regards, Dudley
Monday, 4. April 2011
Bill: I am very sorry to hear about your bad experience. We have been a bit short on Optima Elite barrels recently, mainly because we have been trying to catch up on our inventory of the CVA APEX barrels — the APEX being our most recent switch barrel gun introduction. I understand your frustration and our Customer Service Rep probably should not have used the word “obsolete” as we do plan to continue making Optima Elite replacement barrels as long as we continue to have significant demand for them, which we still do. Thanks for letting me know that we let you down. I’ll do my best to make sure that we do a better job in the future. Best regards, Dudley
Monday, 4. April 2011
Hey Dudley, I have a question for you. I bought one one the limited anniversary Mountain Rifles in percussion. It’s the 50 cal with browned metal and a German silver sight. You saw it once when I was in the retail store in Norcross and you commented that you thought you had got the nicest one of the lot but mine was better. Just wondering what you think it’s worth now? I got a steal on it from Bass Pro. No one was buying them and I pretty much named my price. Thanks for the info in advance.
Jeff
Tuesday, 5. April 2011
Regarding the Mountain Rifle with the missing cap box, I think the s/n is in the 14,000 range. It definitely takes the four screw as the inlet has the pointed ends. If you can find a cap box, that would be great. This was probably a kit gun that never got finished and the cap box was lost. I also came across an English style cap box on the R. E. Davis website and I’m wondering if that box, which looks almost identical, might not have been supplied on these early, made in USA marked guns?
Thanks for your reply,
RedFeather
Tuesday, 5. April 2011
RedFeather: Try contacting Erwin Fagel at Deer Creek Products. He has a good many of these older parts for CVA sidelocks. Phone number is765-525-611. Good luck, Dudley
Tuesday, 5. April 2011
Jeff: As with anything, it is worth a lot if you find someone who really wants it. In this case, it would be someone who is really into better traditional style sidelocks. In my opinion, just the quality of the wood on this gun make it “worth” at least $1,000 to the right buyer. If you tried to buy a similar gun with equal wood, no doubt it would cost you that much. One way to enhance the value of these guns is by changing out the lock to an L & R brand version. These locks are pretty expensive, but worth it to bring the quality of the lock up to the level of the rest of the gun. I think I paid around $200 for the flint lock that I added to my Mountain Rifle. However, if you put the gun on line to sell, I think that you’d more than pay for the $200 by having the better lock as part of the package. Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 5. April 2011
Dudley,years ago I bought a renegade muzzleloaders in the .54 cal. I loved the octagon barrel and thought that they would really look great on the optima or the accura muzzleloaders.There is something that makes the octagon barrle look like a true muzzleloader.your muzzleloaders are simply the best,but just thought i’d throw that in there about the octagon barrels.thanks,jim
Tuesday, 5. April 2011
Jim: Interesting idea. Of course, the octagon barrel was the standard with old style replicas, as it was the standard in the originals. However, I am not so sure that the person who is buying a modern in-line style gun would appreciate this barrel design. We will give it some thought though. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 5. April 2011
Thanks Dudley,
I’ve had the gun a long time now and was just wondering. It is a beautiful piece and I plan on keeping it.
Jeff
Tuesday, 5. April 2011
Also I think I’m going to keep the gun just as it is. Things seem to be worth more to me original and this is one fine weapon. It will no doubt be passed on to one of my sons one day.
Tuesday, 5. April 2011
Jeff: Understood. I’d never sell mine. Only way anyone else will get it is when my wife sell off all my stuff after I am gone. Somebody will probably get some great deals! Dudley
Wednesday, 6. April 2011
DUDLEY,DOES YOUR SHOP HAVE ANY MUZZLELOADERS THAT WHAT MIGHT BE CALLED”SECONDS” OR NOT SELLABLE BECAUSE OF SCRATCHERS OR BLEMISHES THAT MIGHT NOT GO TO THE PUBLIC?IF SO,I MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.AS YOU MIGHT REMEMBER,WITH MY BIPOLAR AND PTSD I GOT IN A VERY AGGITATED MOOD AND GOT RID OF MY CVA MUZZLELOADERS.DUH!!!MY DIABILITY INCOMEDOESN’T ALLOW ME TO BUY NEW ONE LIKE I USE TO DO.THANKS. JIM
Wednesday, 6. April 2011
Jim Yes we do have some on occassion. You can call our Customer Service Department at 770-449-4687 and they can tell you what is available and at what price. Thanks, Dudley
Thursday, 7. April 2011
Greetings Mr. McGarity,
Short and sweet, i don’t fall in love with anything–not even my wife. in 1993 i used my tax return for a Muzzleloader, Quality Farm Store had a deal on a 50cal. Plainsman. i took it off the shelf and off we went. now realize i come from an Southern Ohio family that has over 500 family farm acres and 600 private access acres… we hunt. 25 deer a year is avg for us.
i used that CVA so much i put the shotgun away for 5 years. my son’s first deer (buck) was a Plainsman deer.
this year late season snow, 57 yards, open sight in heavy cover, one shot wonder struck again. no more than twenty steps from hit to dead drop.
this gun is 19 years old and will escort my 11 yr old daughter on her first primitive hunt this fall.
when you got something good, you dont mess with it. just clean it!
thanks for the time of my life in the woods, please keep making the old fashion kinds, im just not gonna get a “thumb hole”.
The CVA is a good gun, good enough to hand down to your grandson!
Friday, 8. April 2011
Ohio: Thanks for your comments. There are a lot of those old CVA sidelocks still out there and doing the job. Keep up the great shooting! Best regards, Dudley
Sunday, 17. April 2011
First I like to say I’ve had cva since the 70’s guns have been great but stuff happens no matter what brand even cars with that said, I have a kodiak Pro also that won’t fire, what i found was in the cap’s started using T7 problem went away. I also have a optima pro i got at bass pro 45cal at a clearance sale then a 12ga barrel four it latter, what i need is info on how to load the 12ga no manual came with it can u help me out here. Thanks
Monday, 18. April 2011
Want to ad my voice to Bill’s in regard to Optima Elite barrel availability. There is pent up demand for 308, 45/70, 12ga, and probably others. It’s been frustrating to see Optima Elite barrels assembled as part of Elite Stalker rifles, sold as non-switch barrels.
Monday, 18. April 2011
Charles: If you go to the CVA.com website you can find general shotgun loading procedures in the manual for the TRAPPER shotgun. The manual for this model will be listed along with all of the others. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 18. April 2011
Rich: I understand your frustration and we are working to build our stock back up on Optima Elite barrels. The Elite Stalker that you mention is a gun that is made of Optima Elite parts but is non-interchangeable. Most of these have been sold as “Mississippi/Louisiana Guns” in “antique calibers.” Since these states made single shot guns of pre-1900 design and .35 and above caliber legal during their “primitive weapons” seasons, there has been huge demand for them. By making the Elite Stalkers in these “one-barrel” configurations, the frame can be fitted to that one barrel rather than having to be capable of accepting all barrels — this lowers the production cost and thus lowers the retail price. For most of this market, having the “switch barrel” capability was not worth the extra cost. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 18. April 2011
Mr. McGarity, once again, thanks for the interaction and attempts to keep customers informed.
I find your comments in regard to the Optima Elite and Elite Stalker difficult to rationalize. Having examined both guns, it’s clear that you’ve added an extra machining step to the very same barrels and receivers to make the Elite Stalker unswitchable. To suggest that more manufacturing steps on the same parts is less expensive doesn’t make sense.
If CVA wants a lower price point rifle with less capability, even if it costs more to make such a product, that’s your choice. CVA is entitled to make and market products however it sees fit.
But those of us who bought into the Optima Elite product line in the last few years are now suffering from lack of product support. And since we bought into a switch barrel concept, barrel availiability is what we thought we’d get. That was how CVA marketed the system. I’m glad the hunters in Mississippi and Louisianna can use an Elite Stalker in 45/70 to meet their primitive weapons requirements. Meantime, on the store shelves, there are Elite Stalkers in 7mm-08, 243, 308, etc., assembled with Optima Elite barrels, while spare Optima Elite barrels are difficult to come by. Elite Stalker marketing, from the outside looking in, appears to be less about Mississippi and Louisianna, and more about clearing the way for Apex sales. And that’s ok, too, unless you happen to be an Optima Elite owner who can’t get a barrel you thought would be available, only a few years after you bought into a switch barrel platform.
I think the Optima Elite is a fine system. If shortly after bringing it to market, you guys came up with a better mousetrap in the Apex, and don’t want to support the Optima Elite, then offer us a trade in, rather than leaving us boxed into a corner as CVA invents marketing programs to reduce parts inventory and/or position the product we bought as “obsolete.”
If you want to combat the damage done to CVA’s reputation by the bashers who were the inspiration for this very discussion format, I’d recommend plain honesty at every opportunity.
Monday, 18. April 2011
Rich: Well, the APEX certainly is a better system. However, as I said, we do intend to support the Optima Elite with available barrels, and our running short recently does not mean that we have abandoned them. In fact, we are making them available direct to consumers via http://www.cva.com. Most of the Elite Stalker guns that we build are indeed for the MS/LA market — as the APEX is not even legal in LA, and the Elite Stalker hits a different price point than the APEX can in both markets. We did build some other Elite Stalkers in other calibers as well. Both gave us an opportunity to use Optima Elite frames that were left over, as well as some excess barrels that did not meet the tolerances to be sold as interchangeable barrels, but could be custom fit to frames. In doing this, we did find that there was a market in certain areas for a non-interchangealbe gun in this price point, especially in MS and LA, but also to as smaller degree in other areas, like Texas. So, the Elite Stalker is not built just to move old parts, but because it has become a good seller for certain retailers. Therefore, the success of the Elite Stalker makes it easier, not more difficult, to continue to support the Optima Elite model with barrels. Don’t think I can be any more honest than that. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 18. April 2011
OK. thanks for your willingness to discuss these issues.
Monday, 18. April 2011
http://store.cva.com/cva/cva-barrels/optima-elite-barrels.html
Lots of product. Even see there are a ton of CVA Apex barrles. Looking forward to purchase a 300 win mag. Interesting topic I read on the max muzzleloader website. I hear that CVA is introducing a new CVA breech plug that is compatible with black horn 209. Just wondering when that is going to be available.
Thanks,
pbonura
Tuesday, 19. April 2011
pbonura: Yes, we have decided to sell APEX (and Optima Elite) barrels direct to consumers rather than through our retailers. There were just not enough retailers out there who were willing to carry barrels in inventory. Almost all of our sales were drop ships. So, it just made sense that we could better serve our customers by selling the barrels direct from our warehouse through http://www.cva.com. Yes, Blackhorn has helped us greatly by designing a version of our QRBP that will more efficiently ignite and burn Blackhorn, and probably all other loose propellants as well. We should have them available some time in June. Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 19. April 2011
If you want a blued, centerfire barrel for an Optima Elite, as of right now your choices are: 1) 7mm-08, or 2) 20ga with a defective sites.
That’s not “lots of product.”
Tuesday, 19. April 2011
Rich: Only “in stock” product shows on the site. As soon as the barrels arrive in our warehouse they will show on the site. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 19. April 2011
Sorry to be stating the obvious, but the SS/Fluted .50 and SS/Fluted .45 are both listed, despite a status of “Out of Stock”
Tuesday, 19. April 2011
If you want a blued, centerfire barrel for an Optima Elite, as of right now your choices are: 1) 7mm-08, or 2) 20ga with a defective sites.
That’s not “lots of product.”
Man you are tough to please. I commend Dudley for coming on board and answering questions and trying to please his customers. I have posted on this forum and received a response everytime. Not alot (really none) of CEO`s of a hunting company would answer questions on a public forum. Other barrels are available so there is choices for you to purchase right on line.
pbonura
Tuesday, 19. April 2011
pbonura, the whole point of a switch barrel rifle system is being able to get barrels in calibers you want. When you buy something like the Optima Elite, you’re buying into a system. You are dependent on the maker to deliver on the promise of interchangability. I’ve discussed this with other Optima Elite owners. There is frustration about barrel availability, and it’s been growing for a while.
What spurred my original comment was seeing a local sporting goods store with Elite Stalkers on the shelves, sporting barrels marked “Optima Elite,” in calibers I would like to have, but cannot buy because they are nowhere to be found as aftermarket barrels.
Can you understand why that would be frustrating? The availability of two barrels, out of a possible dozen or so chamberings, isn’t “lots of product,” as you put it.
Mr. McGarity is doing something unusual for his position and industry: He’s directly engaging customers on the Internet. I applaud him for doing it, and I certainly don’t want to wear him out on it. But I would hope that the same thing that motivates him to engage us here would motivate him to want to know what his customers are frustrated about.
Tuesday, 19. April 2011
Not looking for a fight. But there are like seven barrels available on the cva website for the CVA Optima Elite.
243, 30-06, 22-250, 7mm-08, 20 g (hear your point), 50 cal blue barrel and 45 cal blue barrel. Just call customer service and order one. There is product not sure where you get two. Call customer service I have and if it on the site the product is there. Link is below again.
http://store.cva.com/cva/cva-barrels/optima-elite-barrels.html
Tuesday, 19. April 2011
Do I get a free can of black spray paint to go with the new stainless steel barrel, so I can match the stainless barrel to my blued receiver?
Wednesday, 20. April 2011
Rich: You are correct. We have to take the good and bad in order to get the true value from our blog sites. The reason that we are active here is to learn what we are doing right and what we are doing wrong when it comes to satisfying our customers — either with product or service. We did indeed drop the ball on our inventory of Optima Elite barrels, as you have pointed out. Sure, there were reasons why this happened, but excuses do not and should not really matter to a loyal CVA customer who is trying to find a particular barrel for his gun. At this point, about all we can do is commit ourselves to doing a better job in the future. Thanks, Dudley
Wednesday, 27. April 2011
DUDLEY.I SAW AN ARTICLE ON THE REMOVABLE BREECH PLUGS FOR CVA,TC AND TRADITIONS.SEEMS THERE IS A LITTLE TROUBLE WITH THEM.I ALSO SAW WHERE THE MAKERS OF BLACHHORN 209 POWDER HAVE MADE AN UP GRADE ON THE BREECH PLUGS TOMAKE THEM BETTER. WILL THIS BE AN ITEM THAT COMES ON THE GUNS OR BUY THEM SEPERATELY AND IF SO,HOW MUCH WILL THEY COST?HOW SOON WILL THEY BE ON THE MARKET EITHER WAY? THANKS JIM.
Thursday, 28. April 2011
Jim: I don’t know anything about T/C or Traditions, but we did have some complaints that Blackhorn would sometimes be slow to ignite with our QRBP, expecially if the flash hole was dirty. Our QRBP was designed with pellets in mind rather than loose powders — this is the reason that the face of the plug is flat. We have been working with Blackhorn (Western Powders) to resolve this issue and they have provided us with a plug design that works very well with Blackhorn and all other loose propellants. We are starting the manufacturing process now and we should have this new “Blackhorn QR Breech Plug” available for sale by the end of June. We will sell it on-line at http://www.cva.com, through our retailers, and also through Blackhorn (Western Powders). Thanks, Dudley
Thursday, 28. April 2011
Jim: Sorry, forgot to mention the price. Not sure yet, but we hope to keep it as close to $10 as possible. Dudley
Sunday, 8. May 2011
Dudley, I’ve hunted with my 50 caliber over and under muzzleloader by CVA for several years now. It’s a unique firearm that I enjoy hunting Indiana deer with. I was wondering if you could put a date to this firearm? Its stamp number is 2798, conneticut valley arms – made in italy.
Thanks in advance, Daniel
Monday, 9. May 2011
Daniel: Sounds like one of CVA’s old double rifles. These were made back in the mid 1980s. At that time they sold for about $600. Very rare now, as only a few were made. Good hunting, Dudley
Monday, 6. June 2011
Finally got the CVA Accura out at the range…ran 30 rounds through it. Cleaned the bore after every shot, running a patch through it. Shooting 295 grain Aero tip copper, 100 grains of 777 powder and 777 209 primers. Well I can get a decent group at 50 yards with in 1 inch of each other…….But out at 100 yards the gun is always throwing them low to the right. Inspite of adjustments to the scope, a 3X9 NIKON Pro staff…..I then move back to 50 yards and the gun groups well…..any suggestions on loads or bullets to correct this. I know I can shoot as I just zeroed in the 30.06 at 100 yards on Saturday and had no problem. I’m shooting on a bench reat at the range with sand bags.
Monday, 6. June 2011
PC: That kind of group in unacceptable in this gun. Sound like there has to be some kind of issue with the barrel. I think you should send it back to us, we can recrown it, as often a flaw in the crown can cause this kind of problem. Or, we can just replace the gun for you. Sorry you are having these issues. Very rare for a CVA Accura. Best regards, Dudleuy
Friday, 24. June 2011
PC: Got your gun back. We have replaced it. Should ship out to you today. When we say we guarantee the CVA Accura V2 to be the most accurate gun you have ever shot, we mean it. Let me know how this one does for you. Thanks, Dudley
Saturday, 25. June 2011
Mr. McGarity,
Back in March of this year I bought a CVA Eclipse from a friends friend who purchased it new a couple years ago, he said he shot two bucks within 15 mins of each other and hadn’t fired the gun since(meaning he left it reloaded from that hunt). I wanted it for Alabama’s bp season and for the seven mile island refuge month long hog season allowing bp guns for March.
Being new to muzzelloaders all together I tried shooting it to unload it, but that wasn’t going to happen, so I went out and bought a nipple wrench and a few other things to take it apart. After disassembling it, it was obvious that thing wouldn’t have shot if you threw it in a furnace. None the less, I cleaned for awhile and got her loaded up to take a shot.
I loaded the first 295 grain bullet with 100 grains of powder and it fired.
The second shot fired with a little more kick, which I believe I may have lost a few grains while loading the first shot.
Last week I went back to grandma’s house to do some more practicing and my first load took 3 caps to fire it (I dropped my load down to 90 grains per the recommendation from the bullets package “80-90 for RS powder”). So I took it all apart again and cleaned thoroughly, this time loading 115 grains. Man that thing fired on the first guh’ of go-ahead. I shot about seven or eight more times before my sister and grandma were begging me to stop cause it was shaking the house lol.
Needless to say I’m starting to get into this gun, I hit the target but I need to adjust the rear sight a bit since it was a little loose and accidentally slid forward while cleaning, but its to early in my practice to speak on consistency for I am unsure of how similar or accurate my loads were. I’ve looked around for recommendations on grains of powder and bullets but other than my own tests they all vary. I was hoping you could give me some insight on that, and I’ve also been looking into switching it over to a 209 but I’m not sure of the pros and cons, help…
Saturday, 2. July 2011
Dudley,
I received the replacement gun on Thursday. I went out to range with it today and sited the gun in. After a couple of adjustments with the scope, the CVA Accura V2 is right on at 100 yards with excellent groups. I can hardly wait to get this gun out into the white tail woods. Thank you and Blackpowder Products, Inc. and the CVA muzzleloading brand for what I deem as excellent customer service. I will tell everyone of my outstanding treatment and experience with you and Blackpowder Products, Inc. and the CVA muzzleloading brand. I could not be more satisfied. Thank you to all involved.
CVA -it is not just a better gun, it is better customer service.
Sunday, 3. July 2011
I recently purchased an Optima Magnum. Being new at muzzle loading I went directly on line to find out the dos and the don’t of muzzleloading and also to find out about my new CVA Optima Magnum. One of the first articles I encountered told me that I really did not purchase a magnum and that all barrels were just stamped magnum to sell the same gun at a more expensive price…..this did not make me feel to good. The gun I bought is not the newest model Optima Magnum but the older version with the nickel barrel and real tree camo thumbhole stock. I guess you would call it new old stock…the serial # on the barrel is 61-13-010875-09. I am wondering is this gun a true magnum and will it hold the recommended CVA magnum load?? Have they had any trouble with the breech threading in this model or year? I do a lot of shooting with my grandson and will not shoot this until I get your response….thank you for your time.
Wednesday, 6. July 2011
Issac: My favorite all around load is 100 grains (two pellets) of White Hots, a PowerBelt Aerolite 250 (or PowerBelt AeroTip 295), and a Winchester W-209 primer. Try this and I think you’ll be very satisfied. Good shooting, Dudley
Wednesday, 6. July 2011
Potential Customer: Thanks for the kind words. Sorry you had the initial issues with the first gun, but I am happy we were able to prove to you that we really do stand behind our products. Good luck this season. Best regards, Dudley
Wednesday, 6. July 2011
Emil: Thanks for the post. Yes, the CVA Optima is a “magunum capable” gun. So, you can shoot up to 150 grains (three 50 grain pellets) of Pyrodex, Triple Seven or White Hots. I like the White Hots best, in terms of accuracy and cleanliness. That being said, magnum loads are not necessary for good, or even best, performance in all situations. Unless you are going to be shooting well beyond 100 yards, 100 grains of propellant is plenty. And, you won’t have near the recoil. Good shooting, Dudley
Friday, 8. July 2011
Hello Dudley. I emailed this blog about cva apex barrels. Just wondering if bpi/cva is going to be shipping apex barrels to canada soon. Would like to pick one up but both north silva and perche sports both indicate they have not received them yet. Thanks, pbonura
Sunday, 10. July 2011
Hey Dudley:
I went out and did some shooting with my CVA Optima Magnum today and I am really pleased with the guns performance. A few days ago I wrote you and asked you a few questions about the Optima because of all the negative blogs on line about it not being a quality gun and barrels are blowing up and so forth. Well mine did NOT blow and the accuracy couldn’t be better. I used 245 grain powerbelts with 2 white hot charges and winchester triple seven 209 primers. I never shot a muzzle loader before and at 50 yards I was in and all around the bullseye…at 100 yards I was 2 to 3 inches directly below the bullseye and that was with open sites that came with the gun.. This gun has definatly made me a believer in your product and gave me a new addition to my shooting sport….Thank you for your help on my inquiries and setting all the negatives straight…EMIL
Monday, 11. July 2011
Pbonura: Yes, we do. If they are not on the way already. I’ll check status. Dudley
Monday, 11. July 2011
Emil: I am very pleased that you are so happy with your CVA Optima. This is the kind of customer reaction that we strive for. Keep up the good shooting! Best regards, Dudley
Monday, 11. July 2011
Took out the cva apex and cva optima pro and getting both ready for bear and deer and let me tell you both were shooting dime sized groups at 50 yards. Very happy. Guys at the range were impressed.
Monday, 11. July 2011
Pbonura: Very good! Be sure to send photos of your kills this year. I will put them on our facebook page. Best regards, Dudley
Monday, 11. July 2011
Dudley:
Can I shoot ball and patch from my 50 cal Optima magnum?? If so will it compromise accuracy?? If it is alright what kind of powder should I use with a ball and patch?? Thanks EMIL
Monday, 11. July 2011
Emil: Certainly you could shoot them, but accuracy would likely be terrible. Probably need to stick with PowerBelts or Sabots. Twist rate of 1:28 is way to fast for patched round ball. Pure round ball guns are 1:66. Thanks, Dudley
Sunday, 24. July 2011
Use a tight fitting patch with the round ball. I use the blue and white pillow tick in a CVA Wolf when i just want to have fun plinking on the range. Keep the charges in the 60 to 80gr range and it should do ok for plinking targets. My Wolf shoots around a 3 1/2″ group @ 50 yards but again, for plinking or getting young kids to shoot light recoil, its not to bad. Load up 100gr blackhorn209, 250gr powerbelt aerolite and that same Wolf will put 3 shots touching @ 100 yards.
Wednesday, 17. August 2011
Dudley….I have previously owned a Wolf & an Optima Elite. While they shot good…the Elite was a tack driver, I sold them both due to no communication to email questions that I had sent in. I figures if that was the best that your company could do, then the heck with them. I have dealt with TC (before S&W bought them) & they were great….same with Knight.
I’ve been debating on buying an Apex since they came out. Today I bought one. I love the way it feels & the way it fits. I hope that this time it will be a new & happy beginning of dealing with your company, but if it hasn’t changed, then I’ll be done with the CVA brand. I am not trying to be harsh or mean, but if I don’t tell you, you may never know.
Thanks for listening….Hoping for better results this time-Greg
P.S. The manual said that a T-handle was included with the gun & there wasn’t one in the box.
Wednesday, 24. August 2011
I have been using cva products for years, great guns, just got my new accura v2, took it to the range, had three groups, two cuting each orther, the other quarter inch away, cva kicks butt. great in any wheather, p.s would like to say hello to carlos, I to was on hill 55, in 68. Stemper Fi.
Friday, 26. August 2011
Jim: Thanks for letting us know about the results you got from your CVA Accura V2. Good luck this season. I will tell Carlos you said “howdy.” Also, thank you for your service in Vietnam. All Americans owe you guys a tremendous debt of gratitude. Best regards, Dudley
Sunday, 28. August 2011
Dudley,
First off I’ve got to say you’re one heck of a guy, to take as much time as you have to communicate one on one with anybody who shows up on this blog page, whether they’re fans of CVA or or not. To personally handle situations from customers needing help speaks volumes. It’s unheard of in this day and age of multimillion dollar CEO’s. You’ve won me over.
I just bought an Optima Thumbhole 209 with the scope package and QRBP from Dunham’s and absolutely love it. Apparently I’m not using the “optimum” bullets and primer from what you recommended to another customer but I’m getting dead on results anyway. With 100 gr. of White Hot pellets, 245 gr. PB hollow points and Remington Cleanbore 209’s I had my gun sighted in in 3 shots at 50 yds. I then stepped back to 100 yds and using nothing more than a short bench type shelf for a rest for my elbows and in a kneeling position somehow I managed to hit almost dead center inside a 4 inch bullseye. What a gun!
After I bought the gun I came across Wakefield’s articles and was somewhat concerned, but after doing a lot of research on both CVA and Randy Wakefield I soon came to the correct conclusion. CVA is a very upright and honest company that builds the finest, most accurate, affordable and reliable guns on this planet, and Randy Wakefield is someone that is very much less than reputable, among other things, in my opinion. I’ll leave it at that.
Two questions, where is the serial number on my gun? I can’t find one.
Second, I watched the Bergarra barrels video and while they stated they proof test the center fire barrels to 25% over rated capacity they made no mention of the proof testing of muzzle loading barrels. Can you tell me what they do to proof test these? After Wakefield’s accusation’s it seems CVA would be eager to make special proclamation of this. Thanks again for all you do and one heck of a gun. Can’t wait for deer season.
Monday, 29. August 2011
Jeff: Thanks for your comments. Rest assured, I am not a “multimillion dollar CEO,” but I wish I was! Actually, all of us here are just hunters like you, it’s just that we happen to be in the hunting business — which I would not trade for the millions. In any case, I am very pleased that you like your gun and am proud that you are getting such good results. As for your question about the serial number, you will find it on the underside of the barrel. Just remove the forestock and you’ll see it. As for proof firing, we do not proof fire every muzzleloading barrel, but rather we fire a certain percentage in a progressive destructive test — meaning: increasing the pressures until the barrel blows. Firing every barrel would be very difficult and expensive and, we feel, would not accomplish anything beyond what we are doing now. Apparently, all the major muzzleloader manufacturers feel the same way. Last time I checked, neither Knight, T/C, or Traditions proof fires each of their barrels either. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 29. August 2011
Greg: Thanks for your honest comments. We have been striving to improve for several years now, and I think you’ll find that we have done so. Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 30. August 2011
Just wondering when the cva website is going to have the slug and turkey barrels for sale for the apex.
Wednesday, 31. August 2011
Thanks for the info Dudley. I should correct my mistake in identifying the author of the articles as Wakefield instead of Wakeman. My apologies.
Wednesday, 31. August 2011
I have decided to get into the inline ML community. I currently have two sidelocks both CVA and love them but want a 150-200 yard scoped rifle for hunting ML only areas. Looking at the Optima would that fit my needs or would I need to be looking at the Accura?
By the way what has sold me on CVA and not TC or traditions has been this blog!
Thursday, 1. September 2011
Chad, you can’t go wrong with either one. I prefer the Optima as the stock is slimmer and the rifle over all is a bit lighter than the Accura V2.
I own both the thumbhole and non thumbhole and if you dont have short stubby fingers and can use a scope, i’d highly suggest a thumbhole Optima.
Both of mine came from the factory with triggers of 2lbs and the other is 2lb 1oz.
Come check our forum out and sign up. We have a lot of CVA shooters on here and they were in the same pickle that you were in. Half chose Optimas and the other half chose Accura V2’s.
http://www.FrontierMuzzleloadin.Powerguild.net
We’ll find what fits you best and get you load info for shooting out to 200 yards. I already know of one load for the Optima that will shoot flat and accurate out to 200 yards.
Jonathan
Thursday, 1. September 2011
Chad: If it is long range accuracy you are after, I’d suggest you go with the CVA Accura V2. It comes standard with the Bergara Barrel and accuracy is guaranteed or your money back. Check out the site http://www.BergaraBarrels.com. There is a video there that shows how the barrels are made. Good luck this season! Dudley
Thursday, 1. September 2011
pbonura: I hope by early October on the slug barrels. Probably November for Turkey. Dudley
Saturday, 3. September 2011
i had a friend give me a 50 cal cva apollo its a 97 model so is it ok to shoot?and i also need a bolt spring for it cause its not strong enough to ignite the no.11 cap any help would be appreciated
Monday, 5. September 2011
Hi, Folks,
I just happened to run across this website. I own a CVA Kentucky Long Rifle replica that I bought back in the ’90s. Please tell me how I can tell if mine is one of those recalled.
Thanks,
Tuesday, 6. September 2011
David: Just call 770-449-4687 and one of CVA’s Customer Service Reps will help you out. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 6. September 2011
Bruce: Only In-Line style guns were recalled back in 1997. Since your gun is a sidelock, it was never a part of the recall. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 6. September 2011
Hello,
I have a CVA Blazer that I’ve had since I was a kid before the internet was even thought of. I just got it out and dusted it off and googled the name and found a few problems. Could you advise if this gun is safe to shoot?
It is a CVA Blazer .50 with the SN of 85 398 793.
Thanks, Will
Thursday, 8. September 2011
Will: The Blazer is a very old model that was made prior to BPI taking over the CVA brand. If very well maintained, the gun is safe. However, if the nipple or bolster become rusty, the nipple can blow out and strike the shooter. For this reason, BPI has elected to just replace these guns with a new Wolf rifle. So, if this is what you would like to do, just call our Customer Service Department at 770-449-4687 and they will take care of it for you. Best regards, Dudley
Thursday, 8. September 2011
Just wanted to let you know I called and the CSR went straight to the Blazer Replacement Program. I’m impressed a company is still offering replacements of such an old gun. I’ll probably give the gun to my boy and teach him about muzzle loading. I think I was given the gun when I was 14 or 15 myself. Back then I didn’t like it because it didn’t look like the muzzle loaders that all the men were shooting. (you know the classic old frontier look). Kudos to CVA for still swapping these out.
-will
Thursday, 8. September 2011
Will: Thank you. We do try to do the right thing. Hope your son enjoys the Wolf. Best Regards, Dudley
Thursday, 8. September 2011
This question was asked a couple of times and I think I received a response back in july. However just wondering if cva/bpi has resolved all the export issues and have begun to ship cva apex barrels and forearms to canada to north silva or pesche sports. This may be resolved already and if it is I apologize. My apex in 30 06 shoots so well I dying to get either a 300 win or 243 barrel here in Canada. Thanks, pbonura
Thursday, 8. September 2011
pbonura: Yes we have! Our first shipment of center-fire guns was successfully recieved in Canada just the other day. Thanks, Dudley
Thursday, 8. September 2011
I own a Accura .50 and an Accura V2 .45. Since ive owned my muzzleloaders ive been to several gun ranges and seen alot of people struggling to sight in there very expensive muzzloaders. Ive never had an issue. My opinion is that the Accura is the most accurate muzzleloader take it from someone that has many hours of shooting the Accura. FANTASTIC MUZZLELOADER
Thursday, 8. September 2011
Hi , I just bought my first cva optima 209 magnum , my i’st ml. My buddies were after me to buy a bone collector from tc ,but i bought what I tought was good for me. Dudley please tell me I did a good thing. Do you think it will compare and shoot as well as that bone collector?
Thank’s
Wayne.
Saturday, 10. September 2011
Dudley, I just bought a Wolf at Walmart. It is my first muzzleloader after many years of looking. I was curious about two things. First when registering my gun for the guarantee from CVA it asked for the serial number but I could not find one on the gun or the box.Does it have one and where is it? Second I understood the gun came with a scope mount but there was none. It does have the open sights. I like the new plug idea as it looks like a no brainer. I haven’t shot it yet. Do the triple 7 pellets work ok with regular 209s? I am excited at trying this for the first time. 50 years ago i was hunting as a teen with a kid whose uncle gave him a gun he built from a kit. He had no problem shooting his deer. I was shooting a 303 Enfield and I still have it. I now shoot my 700 ADL 30-06 I got about 45 years ago. So, now an old guy is on a new venture with the Wolf.
Saturday, 10. September 2011
I just answered my own question of the serial number by reading more of the postings. I found it under the forestock as you said it would be.
Monday, 12. September 2011
just got off the phone with cva very impressed.they solved my problem with the apollo and are sending me a new bolt spring and end cap free of charge.excellent customer service guys thanks
Monday, 12. September 2011
MR.McGARITY,I HAVE A CVA OPTIMA ELITE IN BOTH THE .50 CAL.ML AND THE 30-06 RIFLR BARRLE.I USE THE .50 CAL.ML 98% OF THE TIME.IT HAS TAKEN DEER AT 229 YDS AND 243 YDS AS WELL.MY QUESTION IS THAT I SAW WHERE A GUY HAD AN ACCURA ML,AND WANTED TO PUT ONE OF THE NEW ACCURA V2 BARRELS WITH THE NEW TWIST OUT BREECH PLUGS.YOU TOLD HIM THAT HE COULD REPLACE THE BARREL.I WOULD LOVE ONE OF THE NEW ACCURA V2,BUT I AM ON VA DISABILITY,AND SHY ON FUNDS.IS THERE A WAY THAT THE ELITE ML BARREL CAN BE REPLACED WITH ONE THAT HAS THE NEW BREECH PLUG? I HAVE SHOT THE .50 CAL ML FOR ABOUT 6 YEARS AND I’M AFRAID ACCURACY MIGHT START FALLING OFF. THANK YOU FOR SUCH A GREAT PRODUCT AND YOUR TIME FOR TALKING TO YOUR CUSTOMERS. SINCERELY,ROBERT.
Thursday, 15. September 2011
Darryl: Sorry to be so late answering you. I have been out west on an elk hunt for the past several day. No elk, unfortunately. Anyway, thanks for sharing your good experience with your CVA Accura rifles. We love to hear that our customers are happy with our guns. Good luck this season. Best regards, Dudley
Thursday, 15. September 2011
Wayne: Well, let’s see how I should answer this. I assume the Bone Collector was the Triumph model. Actually, our CVA Accura V2 would be the closest thing we have to this model — based on features and price. The Optima is one step below the Accura. However, by choosing the Optima you probably spent about half what the Triumph Bone Collector would have cost you. So, you win on price. Secondly, the Optima, even though not our most accurate rifle because it is not equipped with a Bergara Barrel as is the Accura V2, will still likely be more accurate than the Triumph Bone Collector. Given this, I’d say you made a pretty wise choice in picking the Optima. As for your load, I would recommend the PowerBelt AeroLite 250, IMR White Hots pellets, and a Winchester W-209 primer. Thanks for choosing CVA! Best regards, Dudley
Thursday, 15. September 2011
Ron: Thanks for buying the CVA Wolf. As for the mount, we make two versions of the gun, one with open sights and one with the mount. Looks like you bought the open sight version. I would recommend the DuraSight Dead-On mount if you want to put a scope on it. If you cannot find this locally, you can get it at CVA.com. As for the recommended load, look at my response to Wayne directly above for my favorite recipe. However, the Triple 7 will work fine, just make sure that you swab out the residue ring after each shot (when sighting in the rifle). Since you are relatively new to muzzleloading, you might want to watch the Muzzleloading Basics video that is viewable on http://www.cva.com. This will teach you all you need to know about loading, shooting, and cleaning your new Wolf. Thanks for choosing CVA and best of luck this season. Send me your photos! Best regards, Dudley
Thursday, 15. September 2011
David: Thanks for your comments. Our Customer Service Department does a great job in taking care of our customers. Thanks for taking the time to give them an “atta boy” here on the blog. Good hunting, Dudley
Thursday, 15. September 2011
Robert: Unfortunately, the frame of the Optima Elite is not designed in a way that can accomodate the QRBP. However, if your Optima Elite is such a tack driver, I would not make any change until you have too. Using a tool to remove the breech plug is not really all that big a deal. So, my advice, stick with what you have as long as it works so well. When and if you “shoot the barrel out” you can then make the change to the CVA Accura V2. Good luck this season! Best regards, Dudley
Thursday, 15. September 2011
irst shot and a bottle flew Well, I finally got to go out to the desert and shoot my Wolf for the first time. iI also had my new Rio Grande. Both had new scopes on them.I started wn the airith the 30-30n and saw it was shooting left of the target but the elevation seemed ok. I was not zeroing the guns just minute of pop bottle. Six shots later I stopped shooting sand and the plastic bottle took off as hit. Satisfied I was ready to try my first shot with my Wolf. First shot and the bottle went flying. HUH? I say. So, I reloaded and tried gain withthe same results. WOW!!! Tomorrow I go to the range and get serious. In the mean time all smiles. With two pellets of t7 and bullet from my CVA kit I was happy and the recoil was no9 more than the 30-30. Got the sunshine smiling in my old eyes. I know I am going to like this gun. Look out bambi.
Friday, 16. September 2011
hi there,
i have a cva optima elite 50 cal muzzeloader.you can load it and shoot it,then you can not load it again without beating the ramrod.i shot powerbelts,100 grain, triple 7 pellets. bought another barrel and it does the same thing!!!????
Friday, 16. September 2011
Rick: I have heard of that with sabots, but never with PowerBelts. If you are hitting a tight spot about 1/2 of an inch or so above the powder charge when reloading, it is the Triple 7 residue ring that is causing the problem. This is typical with T7 and it is important to be sure that you either “push through” this ring, or clean between each shot to eliminate it. Also, using a Winchester Triple 7 primer will reduce the problem a good bit. Or, maybe changing to a “cleaner shooting” propellant like IMR White Hots may solve the problem. However, if you are having trouble pushing the PowerBelt down the entire length of the barrel that may be another issue. While it is normal for successive shots to be progressively more difficult to load (due to fouling build up), you should never have to “hammer” a PowerBelt down any CVA barrel. So, if this is indeed the issue you are having, you should return the barrel to us for inspection and possible replacement. Our Customer Service number is 770-449-4687. Thanks, Dudley
Sunday, 18. September 2011
I want to check the safety status of my CVA Eclipse ser# 61-13-015021-00 and what is the max acceptable charge and bullet weight using 209 primer.
I just moved from WA state to Md and can now us 209 primers and a scope and I need to get the right scope base as well. what is the correct size for the scope base?
Monday, 19. September 2011
S. Barger: That would be a 2000 year model, so no issues there. Max load would be 150 grains of ML propellant, but 100 should be plenty for deer. I’d recommend IMR White Hots — accurate and clean. I’d shoot either a 250 or 300 grain PowerBelt AeroLite bullet (AC1550AT or AC1552AT, repectively). DuraSight has an excellent scope mount (DS100B) and rings (DS300B). You should be able to find all at larger CVA retailers or you can order the bullets and scope mount at our online store at http://www.cva.com. Thanks, Dudley
Friday, 23. September 2011
Hello:
I couldnt pass up the opportunity to pat the CVA Co. on the back.Ive owned a CVA mountain rifle for 30 yrs now.I cant say enough good about it.Also,I dont know many Black powder rifles that can consistently drive tacks at 100 yds like this.Its a tool that will get the job done for many years to come.Keep up the good work CVA!
Sunday, 25. September 2011
Mr. McGarity,
After many years of deer huntint with both Remington and T/C Black Diamond, I decided to give CVA a try. Heard many good things about the Bergara barrels and after reading on this blog, I was impressed that you take the time to reply to practically every single post! Sounds like you really do put a lot of emphasis on customer satisfaction. I just purchased a new Accura V2 and topped it with a Leupold ultimate slam scope. I know every gun shoots differently, but I’m hoping to use my new Accura as soon as I receive it. If you could make a recommendation on the best type of load, bullet for the Accura V2, what would it be? I just will not have a lot of time to experiment and wold like to start out with a load that has at least been tried and true on this model before. Don’t worry, I won’t hold you to it if it’s not what my particular gun likes, but I really would like to know what you would start out with if you just purchased your first CVA Accura.
Monday, 26. September 2011
HI Dudley. Well I went to the shooting range with my new optima 209 magnum ( hunter pack ) all I can say is WOW is this ever nice to shoot and also very accurate . Dudley I love this gun but I have a beef . After paying for the gun , taking it out of the box and shooting 3 rounds I sat another round but it did not go all the way down the barrel, so I took the extractor that looks like a screw and the put it in the barrel and lifted it out only to find that the copper end of my cleaning rod ( the small end with the tread stayed in the barrel .. Do you think I could receive a replacement cleaning rod? Wayne. Wgw2205@hotmail.com thank’s
Tuesday, 27. September 2011
Dan: Thanks for the complement. I also have flintlock CVA Mountain Rifle that I love to shoot and hunt with. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 27. September 2011
Wayne: Sure, we will replace the ramrod. Sounds like you used the under barrel loading rod for too big a job. Usually you need to use a heavy duty range rod to pull a bullet. Also, you’ll find it easier to just remove the breech plug and push the load out the back that to use a ball puller. Most people only use the ball puller on sidelocks that do not have removable breech plugs. I have already instructed one of our Customer Service Reps (Jason) to contact you for your address. Good luck this season. Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 27. September 2011
Ed: Thanks a lot. We do try very hard to please our customers, and usually we do. I think that you’ll also be very pleased after you shoot your new Accura V2, as it is one heck of a gun. Best I can do for you on the load is to recommend my own favorite recipe — two IMR White Hot pellets, a 250 grain PowerBelt AeroLite, and a Winchester W-209 primer. When shooting for accuracy on the range, be sure to run one damp patch between each shot, scrubbing a few strokes at the bottom of the bore to remove any residue ring from the previous shot. This will keep your pressures consistent for maximum accuracy. Thanks, Dudley
Saturday, 1. October 2011
Hi Dudly:First of all I have a optima pro mag 50. cal. that I purchased about 4 years ago. I shot my first deer with it. It took me 46 years to get into deer hunting,but i cant think of a better way to do it other than a cva 50 cal. My friends wife decided she wanted to give it a try so I found a cva apollo sporter serial# 865090. Iknow this is not on the recall list, but i didn’t know how how much was involved in shooting this gun. We are both 50 years old now and I don’t want her to have a bad experience with it. I’m disabled and well she is just a woman. She can’t pry my optima from my hand,so I wondered if you could help me out? Thanks for my first deer and CVA!!!!!! michael
Saturday, 1. October 2011
I also talked a friend of mine into the Wolf 50 cal. At first he had trouble with the rifle hanging. It was because he was not closing the gun with enough force. After about 50 rounds this problem went away. Now he has purchased his wife one and thet are both happy campers. I want the Apex bad and the only way I would give up my opti pro mag. I brought the subject up today and got the silent treatment for awhile. Please help me!!!!
michael
Sunday, 2. October 2011
I bought my first cva 3 days ago, shot it one time yesterday and three times today. after that the gun fell apart into 3 pieces when i broke it down to put the cap in. dont know what i’ll do now about hunting.
Monday, 3. October 2011
Michael: I am not sure what your question is or what you mean by the “silent treatment” statement. Please clarify and I will do my best to help you. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 3. October 2011
Larry: Never heard of that before. Please call our Customer Service Department at 770-449-4687 and they will help you out. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 3. October 2011
Michael: Just saw your first post. I’d recommend the CVA Wolf for your wife. It is a great little gun and all she’ll need to kill a bigger buck than you this season! Dudley
Monday, 3. October 2011
My first in-line was the CVA Apollo. It was nothing but trouble. Snapped caps all day long, hard to remove nipple, caps would fall off, etc.
The barrel to stock fit was awfull. Main screw was too long, so I filed it off a small amount and got the proper fit.
My response from CVA at that time was to send the rifle back at my expense.
I never shipped it back and put it away in a corner.
Would I buy another CVA. Yes, I probably would.
Monday, 3. October 2011
She was not happy with spending that kind of money!!!
I got the old “You already have two ,why you need another one”. Well, yesterday we went shopping and I saw a 308 savage I liked and she purchased it for me. So I guess I will keep my mouth shut and hope for next year. I wanted to ask you about changing the apollo to a #209 primer since the #11 cap is a pain!!!
Thanks for any help
Michael
Monday, 3. October 2011
Another one of my friends got his new optima today. He is talking about drilling the QRBP out. I told him no no no no,but some people want to learn the hard way. I hope he don’t have to return it for any reason!!!
Michael
Sure are alot of CVA rifles around here. Eat Your Heart out C.H.
Tuesday, 4. October 2011
Michael: Yes, getting gun purchases by the wives can indeed be a challenge. As for converting the Apollo, that should be possible, but depends on the exact model. Call CVA Customer Service and they’ll be able to advise you — 770-449-4687. As for your buddy who wants to “drill out” his Optima Breech Plug, there is no need to do that. I assume he is doing it to shoot Blackhorn. We now offer a breech plug that is made specifically for Blackhorn. Our Customer Service Department can help him get one of those also. Good luck this season! Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 4. October 2011
J Morgan: Yes, things have changed a lot with the CVA brand since back in the Apollo days. We have come a long way indeed. I am please that you’ll give CVA another shot. Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 4. October 2011
I am brand new to CVA and just yesterday received my first one. The Accura V2, when reading the instruction manual I saw that to take the gun apart (basically into three pieces) you would remove a screw from beneath the fore end of the rifle, thereby ending up with basically 3 pieces, a fore end, the barrell and the rest of it. Like I said, I’m no CVA expert but it seems to me that Larry Tipton’s problem (see Dec. 2, 2011) above might just be that the fore end screw fell out somehow. Anyway, it is just a thought.
Tuesday, 4. October 2011
hi dudel
my last post hear was in feb when i got my first black powder, a cva optima. i have since put more than 100 rounds thru it and it still consistantly shoots a 3 in group @ 150 yards (the longest range at my club) i cant imagine a gun more fun to shoot. i have a few and i always shoot that at the range just cause i enjoy it so much. i will be going on my first hunt this fall and can’t wait.
the only issue i have had is build up on the safty and trigger group cause i guess i use it more than most. do you have any sugjestions to deal with this ? and is there a tool to remove the fireing pin?
thank you again for a great product and taking the time to respond to customers hear on this blog
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
Ed D.: I have no idea what Larry really experienced with his rifle, as I have not heard back from him. Your theory certainly could be correct. Thanks, Dudley
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
Jon H.: Thanks for your comments. I am happy to hear that your gun is performing so well. As for the trigger group, it should never need cleaning due to fouling, as no fouling should ever reach it. Removing and cleaning the firing pin and spring, however, is part of regular cleaning procedure and should be done after firing numerous shots. All you need is a very fine flat head screw driver. Remove the firing pin bushing and the pin and spring will come right out. Clean them up and reinstall. That’s all there is to it. Complete instructions are in your manual. Good luck this season, and thanks for choosing CVA. Dudley
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
Mr. McGarity, it’s been about six months since we discussed Optima Elite barrel availability. There doesn’t seem to be any change in the situation. Was hoping you could update us on availability.
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
Rich: Please remind me which caliber you are looking for and I’ll check on it for you. Thanks, Dudley
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
My next barrel purchase would probably be 45/70 (blued), although I might opt for .50 cal ML instead, depending on how my current .45 ML testing goes. Overall, I am more concerned about long-term availability. If, a year from now, I want a 30-06 barrel, am I simply going to be out of luck as an Optima Elite owner?
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
Rich S.: Both are in stock now. Also, 5 of the 8 other calibers that we are currently out of will be in tomorrow or Friday. We have no plans to discontinue offering barrels for the Optima Elite. There are a lot of these guns out in the market, and the people who bought them will need barrels in the future. Thanks, Dudley
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
That’s great news.
Thanks.
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
I me a fello w atAcademy yesterday who was telling me he had a new accura and was hooting blackhorn in it. he said he liked it very much. Can I shoot it in my new Wolf?
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
Ron: Yes you can shoot Blackhorn in the Wolf. We would recommend, however, that you get the special Blackhorn breech plug — assuming that you have the most recent model Wolf with the Quick Release Breech Plug. If so, you can call CVA Customer Service at 770-449-4687 to get one. Thanks, Dudley
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
Hi Dudley,
I’ve been waiting for what seems like forever for apex barrels to come back in stock. I love my .50 but I bought it thinking I would be able to buy other barrels at any time. The website shows the 7mm-08 on sale for $219 but its been out of stock. ETA PLEASE
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
Red: 7mm-08 and .308 are both schedule to ship by air from our factory next week. So, in two weeks you should be able to get your barrel. Thanks, Dudley
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
Thanks, thats awesome.
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
I continue to have problems with the konus scope that was included from Gander Mountain on MY CVA Accura. They do not last long at all and then lose zero. What can be done
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
Randy: We have had great results with the Konus scopes — using them personally and as a component sold with some of our guns. All I can figure is that you got a defective one, which is very rare as our return rate is almost zero. That being said, Konus really stands behind their products. They have a limited lifetime warranty. Just return it to Konus at 7530 N.W. 79th Street, Miami, FL 33166 along with a note saying what problems your having plus your address and phone/email contact. They will either repair or replace it for you. Thanks, Dudley
Wednesday, 5. October 2011
i have a new Optima 209 and would like to say it is a very fine rifle, with the stainless steel barrel it is also very easy to clean. I would like to know if the 416 SS barrel is also the same as the accura. and to let you know that cva’s customer service is the best. And do you have any discounts for millitary.
Thanks.
Friday, 7. October 2011
Earl: Both the Optima and the Accura feature 416 grade stainless barrels. The difference is in the finishing. The Accura has the premium “Bergara Barrel” which goes through several addtional honing steps. This honing simulates “hand lapping” — a very time and labor consuming process. For the Bergara Barrels, this process has been mechanized but is still more expensive than what could be justified on a gun in the Optima’s price range. So, long story short, that’s your difference. Same materials but different finishing. And the Accura’s Bergara Barrel will be, on average, more accurate than would be the Optima’s standard barrel. Best regards, Dudley
Friday, 7. October 2011
Earl: Sorry, forgot your question about military discounts. No, we do not have such a program at present, but it is an interesting idea. We will give that some thought and see if we can perhaps initiate such a program. Dudley
Saturday, 8. October 2011
just surfin`and this has nothing to do with most everything i`ve read, but i have a 50 cal. bobcat i bought new in 95 or so that i would not trade for 2 new ones of any kind.
Monday, 10. October 2011
Well, glad to see CVA is still around!!! Sorry, however, to NOT see one of the Traditional old style guns! But I read the reason why .. still sad nonetheless. I’m not a real fan of the Modern ML’s…. BUT..I’m HAPPY to say, the CVA Mountain Rifle I bought in 1976, is STILL on the JOB! Shoots BETTER than I can see with open sights to this day!!
Monday, 10. October 2011
Gary: Yes, we sold a gazillion of those Bobcats and many of them, like yours, are still out there taking deer every season. Thanks for the comment. Best regards, Dudley
Monday, 10. October 2011
Hankster: Yep, we certainly are still around. In fact, we are the # 1 selling muzzleloading brand in the USA. Have been for about a decade now. As for the traditional guns, I love them too. However, there just is not enough consumer demand to justify making them anymore — at least not as a volume business. A lot of very good trad style guns are still being made by custom builders, and Lyman still has a good one too. I still shoot my flintlock CVA Mountain Rifle and I have to say that it is my favorite of all the guns I own. Good luck this season! Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 11. October 2011
My brother recently purchased the CVA Apex, 35 Whelen, stainless and camo. This is a well developed rifle. It shoots straight but kicks hard. We reduced the kick by removing the rubber butt pad and placing old lead muzzel loading bullets in “two” zip lock bags with cardboard as a final filler at the top. Using the picket on a standard 30-30 reticle scope I was able to pop a balloon at 400 yards! Way to go CVA!!!
Tuesday, 11. October 2011
J Morgan: You are right about that! The .35 does indeed pack a punch. Interesting solution, but for sure weight in the stock will reduce the felt recoil. Glad you liked the gun! Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 11. October 2011
Dudley….I’m still working up loads for my Apex, but I have an additional problem. It won’t break open at times. You have to hole the pistol grip with one hand, make a hard slap up onto the forearm & then pull the release. Most of the time this will allow the action to break, but sometimes it takes 2 or 3 hard slaps. It has been this way right from the beginning. I have made sure that action is clean & can find no burrs or anything else that may hang it up. You can actually see & feel it move slightly when you pull the release but it will not open unless I smack the forearm. Advise please.
Wednesday, 12. October 2011
My first CVA rifle was a synthetic stocked Bobcat that our local hardware store had on their gun rack for about ten years with no takers and sold it to me for fifty bucks new in the box. She now has a wooden stock and adjustable iron sights and is my go to gun for deer hunting. I also have the older model Wolf that I consider the best inline I have ever shot. My oldest son took a 14 point buck at 140 yards the season before last and last season my 12 year-old granddaughter got her first buck at 90 yards with it I have just recently been been lucky enough to pick up new in the box a 50 cal CVA Kentucky Rifle and a new laminated stock 50 cal CVA Hawkins. I would not trade any of my CVAs for the most expensive gun made by the other manufactures
Thursday, 13. October 2011
Dudley,
I haven’t had a chance yet to shoot my new accura V2, but I’ve noticed that if I don’t kind of slam the action shut it is really difficult to cock the rifle and then the trigger won’t work. I have to open up the action again, let the hammer down and then close it hard in order for me to be able to pull the hammer back and let it down (I don’t dry fire it because I’m not sure if it would hurt the gun or not). If I close it hard then it seems to work fine. When I’m hunting I don’t put a primer in the gun until after I’m in my stand so I’d like to be able to close it kind of quietely if possible. Is this normal for the accura V2 that you have to close the action pretty hard in order for it to work?
Thursday, 13. October 2011
Hi dudely. I bought a cva apex not to long ago. Went hunting with it on a rainning day. The thimbles gots rusted and i pop the thimbles out. It scratched the barrels. Would it do any damage to my muzzleloader shooting? Or lets say would it damage my barrels when i shoot it? By the way do they have a specieal tools for it. I didnt knoe so i pop it out with a rubber hammer and the thimbles scratched the barrel. And also, do they have warranty on it. Forgot to look at my papers. Thanks
Sunday, 16. October 2011
Dudely, I just traded my crossbow for a Apollo .50 cal #61-13-094846-95 and I assume its on the recall. What can I expect? I did it for the up coming early black powder but now I am afraid to take it out and even test fire it although the previous owner said he never shot it much but that the iron sights were set to 150 yds. I know if there is a recall I will have to set aside my hunt but how long will my replacement take? Thank you.
Monday, 17. October 2011
Greg: Muzzleloader or centerfire? Either way, very uncommon. Should just take a little force pulling down on the forestock while pulling the breeching lever. I problem continues, you should return it to us for inspection. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 17. October 2011
Walley: Thanks for the comments. We love to hear from satisfied customers. Good luck this season! Best regards, Dudley
Monday, 17. October 2011
Ed D: Make sure that the breech plug is screwed in all the way. Sometimes, if it is not, you’ll experience that problem. If that is not it, then the gun should losen up a bit with use. If not, return it for repair or replacement. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 17. October 2011
Johnyaj: Unfortunately, it does require a special tool that we have to install the thimbles, and they are not intended to be removable. We can replace them if you send the barrel back. Bottom line, they are kind of spring loaded and they have to be compressed in order to reinstall them. You may be able to do it with channel locks or something, but I have never attempted. No harm in trying. Dudley
Monday, 17. October 2011
Richard: Yes, you have a recall gun. DO NOT FIRE IT! Call our Customer Service Department at 770-449-4687 and they will arrange replacement with a new CVA gun. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 17. October 2011
What about the Stalkers I see for sale in various calibers? I don’t see a Stalker listed but it says the barrels are Optima barrels. Are barrels interchangable in different calibers for this gun?
Tuesday, 18. October 2011
Ron: The Stalker is on a similar frame as the Optima Elite. However, the Stalker is a fixed barrel gun and is not interchangeable. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 18. October 2011
I thought that may be true. I was wondering if they could be changed though
Thursday, 20. October 2011
I’ve had mine for about 3 years now S.N. 61-13-057880-07. Mine has been a death trap. The only reasons I haven’t sold it is to keep someone else from almost experiencing what happen to me. After buying the optima new from walmart, the gun was shooting great and all the first 10 shots for practice, but when I was fixing to shoot at a deer the next day, the gun wouldn’t stay cocked with a primer in it. After working with it back and forth till it locked it shot fine. That’s not the reason I put it away, and won’t sell it to anyone, here is the reason. The next morning I was on the stand, and I put my primer in, then I went to close the gun, IT WENT OFF WITHOUT THE HAMMER BEING COCKED BACK. After almost sh!ting my pants we went home and i loaded it again to see if it would do it again in the daylight where I could see, and it did it again. I notice that the firing pin wont go back all the way and when you was closing it, that the pin would hit the primer and go off, so it stays in the closet tillmi can get new parts or a gun smith to fix. I’ll just hunt with my bow!!
Now with that said I also own the CVA wolf which I havent had any problems with, that I Let my wife shoot, for the price it’s the best shooting muzzleloader I’ve owned.
Saturday, 22. October 2011
Dudley,
I read somewhere that the optima magnums are supposed to come with the durasite scope mounts. Is this right? I bought one from cabela’s a couple months ago (absolutely love it) but it didn’t come with any of the owner’s manuals or the durasite mount, just the cva box and a couple chunks of styrofoam. I’m thinking maybe it was a display? Probably should’nt order from them again.
Saturday, 22. October 2011
The apollo I got off a old man has a breech plug that he lost the tool for.Well I guess you know what shape its in. I was getting it out with a large flat head driver, but now Im in trouble. How can I get this thing out now? Head is almost gone. Should have replaced it, but I thought it would last this season.
Maybe one of the brains at cva can help
Thanks Michael
Saturday, 22. October 2011
I got it out. wrap a towel around the barrel and put it in a vise. 3 taps with a hammer wile turning the driver and it backed right out.Time for new plug and tools. Will cost as much as the Apollo. OOOOOO well.
Thanks Mike
Sunday, 23. October 2011
I have a cva bobcat, the guy i bought it off of had never had the breech plug out. I soaked it with penetrating oil and tried to loosen it up. The button broke off the plug. Does anyone know where i can find one for a bobcat? Not seeming to have any luck finding one online. I guess they are discontinued. But i would like to find one before drilling and tapping the old one out. Thanks kyle
Monday, 24. October 2011
Shane: Sounds like the firing pin spring may be broken or detached. Return the gun and we will either repair or replace. Call CVA Customer Service at 770-449-4687. Glad that you like the Wolf, though. Best regards, Dudley
Monday, 24. October 2011
Bryan: Some do and some don’t. We sell the Optima in two versions, one with the DuraSight Dead-On mount and one with the Fiber Optic Sights. So, it just depends on which version your Dealer happened to buy. The ones with the mount have an item number that ends in “M” — for example: PR2012SM. You can download the manual from http://www.CVA.com. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 24. October 2011
Michael: Probably won’t cost that much. Call CVA Customer Service at 770-449-4687. At least you got the plug out, so you will not have to ship the gun. Best regards, Dudley
Monday, 24. October 2011
BigWildCat: The breechplugs on the Bobcat are not removable. On all CVA sidelocks this is the case. That’s why you had such trouble getting it out. Now, about your only option is to return to us for repair. Warranty was voided when you removed the plug, unfortuately. Call 770-449-4687 to arrange return or go on http://www.cva.com for return instructions. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 24. October 2011
If the breech plug isn’t supposed to come out why did the gun originally come with a breech plug wrench that fits over the squared off part of the breech plug.
Monday, 24. October 2011
BigWildCat: If it did, it is not one that we provided. Are you sure it is a Bobcat? No sidelock we ever build had a removable breech plug. Dudley
Monday, 24. October 2011
Yes it is a bobcat .50 cal. i bought it off a friend who bought it new at wal-mart several years ago. it does have a button type breech plug. with the squared end broken off would this gun still be safe to fire? how would you repair the gun, or do i need a whole new barrel?
Monday, 24. October 2011
BWC: Jason from CVA Customer Service will email you with repair info. NO, THE GUN IS NOT SAFE TO SHOOT. The button on the back is what holds the back of the barrel into the stock. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 24. October 2011
okay thanks sorry for the trouble
Monday, 24. October 2011
Hi, guys…I have a CVA Missouri .50 rifle, given to me brand new as a present from my now-deceased father, circa 1987. I got many years of good use from it until the hammer started to fail to break the No. 11 caps in hunting situations, costing me a few shots at deer, so I retired it. I am interested in restoring it to give it to my son, and I think the problem was the tension spring in the lock housing. I am trying to figure out who has them and although the web sites all direct me to Deek Creek Products in IN, I have read about 68 consumer report complaints about that company and I hesitate to do E-business with them. I also need a replacement rear sight for the barrel…Any suggestions?
Tuesday, 25. October 2011
Doug
I have done business with Deer Creek for several years and have always found them to be very reliable. I have never had a problem with them and they have helped me out of a bad place more than once. If anyone can help you out they are the ones to do it. Give them a call at 756-525-6181 and I am sure that you will be happy with the outcome.
Tuesday, 25. October 2011
Doug: Wally is right. Deer Creek may not be high-tech in e-commerce, but they are honest and dependable. You just have to contact them the old fashioned way — by phone. Guess you could say they are “traditional.” Good luck, Dudley
Wednesday, 26. October 2011
dudley a friend of mine gave me a cva blazer and i dont care for the gun i love cva products just not this one. i have tried to sell it a couple times but all of yhe gunsmiths say that it has been recalled. the serial number is 85-xxxx-01 can you confirm this for me.
Wednesday, 26. October 2011
Uriah B: Yes, the Blazer is a very old CVA gun, sold back in the 90’s. It was one of the first “modern in-lines” — though certainly not up to today’s standards. Nothing wrong with the gun as long as it is very well maintained. However, since it does have the CVA brand on it and is not up to today’s standards, we will replace any Blazer with a new CVA gun. Just call our Customer Service Department at 770-449-4687 and tell them you have a Blazer. They’ll take care of the rest. Best regards, Dudley
Friday, 28. October 2011
Hi Dudley
You suggested a cva wolf for my wife. Well my neighbor has one and the trigger locked and would not close. Our season starts in one week. Your sevice dept. says the only way to put the action back togather is to send it back. We dont have time for this .Can you help us out with a action assembly or something to get us hunting. I bragged about the wolf to him , now he is po at ME.
THANKS MICHAEL!!!!!!!!!!
Saturday, 29. October 2011
I Just received a cva .50 with a 32″ barrel. It looks like the mountain rifle model. It has a silver looking butt plate and a silver side pouch on the side of the stock opposite of the cheek patch. Has no. 0061624 on the barrel which is browned and says MADE IN USA. I was curious were Rick found some of his info on his ml with his no. off the barrel or if anyone could give me some insight on possible yr and actual model. And if it is actually one of those great shooters I have been reading about that came out of this company and model. Can’t wait to find out what works best for a load and go try my luck on elk with it. Thanks for any input ahead of time.
Sunday, 30. October 2011
DUDLEY,I HAVE A CVA ACCUA,NOT THE V2,WITH TH STOCK AND APG GREEN.ON THE BUTT STOCK AND THE FOREND THERE ARE THESE LITTLE ROUGH RIDGEDS THAT HELP WITH THE GRIP.MY QUESTIONIS THIS.WOULD THE RUBBER GRIPS ON THE NEW ACCURA V2 FIT ON THE BUTT STOCK AND FOREND OF MY ACCURA? THEY LOOK ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME TO ME.
Sunday, 30. October 2011
Robert, go to Napa autoparts and check this product out. Just mask off your forearm as well as the rear part of the stock and spray a tack coat ” very thin” on, give it 20 minutes, then do a full spray, allow 30 minutes to dry in between coats. I do at least 4 coats. Don’t do it thick or else it fogs up and you’ll have the fun of pealing it all off and doing it over again. Clean the surface good before applying. You can use rubbing alcohol to remove grease/oil and such. Check it out here,
http://gandersmuzzleloadingblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/slick-gun-stock-plasti-dip-it.html
Monday, 31. October 2011
I am new to a muzzleloader but i recently traded for a CVA optima .50 caliber i had a thompson center and i will never go back the CVA is a much more accurate gun with half of the recoil and smoke. I am a CVA hunter now.
Tuesday, 1. November 2011
Dudley,
I have been shooting traditional blackpowder for more than 20 years. I have always shot custom flintlock or TC percussion side hammer rifles. I did a lot of research and recently decided to purchase my first inline ML, the Accura V1. I saw the new QRBP designed for Blackhorn 209 on your website. Is a similar BP available for the first version Accura rifle? If not, do you have a different solution? I have seen articles and forums where CVA owners were reaming the flashhole or machining the BP to install a vent liner with a larger flashhole.
Friday, 4. November 2011
i was just given a cva blazer it has never beed shot what is max and min loads and can i shot powerbelts in it
Friday, 4. November 2011
Dudley,
Can you tell us what the pressure rating is for the “Stalker”, in the 45-70 cal. please? A friend just purchased one and it may be the “Elite Stalker”, if that makes any difference. It’s a blue barrel with black stock, 24″. Thanks.
Saturday, 5. November 2011
Dudley,
My last question regarding the old CVA Accura breech plug and Blackhorn 209 was deleted and not answered. I do not understand why, but I will ask a different question. How can I obtain an owners manual for the original CVA Accura? The only manual available on the CVA website is for the current V2 model.
Sunday, 6. November 2011
CVA Apex slug or turkey barrel. Just wondering the following for the turkey barrels for the apex.
What forearm is required for this barrel? Muzzleloader, full contour and regular contour?
Does this allow removable chokes so any owner can put a different type of choke in?
Are they in?
Thanks,
pbonura
Tuesday, 8. November 2011
pbonura: The muzzleloading forestock works with the shotguns also. So, no additional fore-stock needs to be purchased if you have the ML version of the APEX. Yes, it comes with the turkey choke but other chokes can be used. Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 8. November 2011
Robert: Yes, the V2 stock would fit. I you want one it can be purchased through our customer service department at 770-4494687. Sorry to be so late answering, but I have been off hunting for the past 10 days. Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 8. November 2011
J Morgan: All are proof tested in the standard manner. However, we do not recomend any hand loads or factory loads that would be hotter than normal factory loads. Dudley
Tuesday, 8. November 2011
Matt K: That sounds like a very old CVA Mountain Rifle. Probably built sometime in the very late 1970s or early 1980s. A real find for sure. It is a 1:66 twist so try 90 grains of powder and a patched round ball or T/C Maxi-Ball. Congrats! Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 8. November 2011
Michael Holt: Sorry, just read your post as I have been off hunting for the last 10 days. If the action has been disassembled, it does require a return to us to repair it. Dudley
Tuesday, 8. November 2011
Jason: No we do not have a Blackhorn Plug for the Accura V1. However, this gun has a shorter fire channel in the breech plug and should work fine with BH. Give it a try and see. Dudley
Tuesday, 8. November 2011
Roland: The Blazer was never a “Magnum Gun” so 90 grains is about all I’d recommend. However, this is a very primitive style in-line that has not been made for many years. BPI will exchange this gun for a newer model if you’d like to return it. If not, and you want to fire it, you need to have it checked out by a competent gunsmith to make sure that there is no corrosion in the nipple threads. If I were you, I’d just call CVA customer service and make the exchange for a new gun. Phone number is 770-449-4687. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 8. November 2011
Jason: You can call Customer Service at 770-449-4687 and request a manual. Or, just look on http://www.cva.com for the manual. Even if you only find the Accura V2 manual, a will be essentially the same except for the breech plug. Dudley
Wednesday, 9. November 2011
thanks Dudley McGarity ill be calling today as my son has taken over my cva bobcat to hunt with we have a total of 27 deer and 7 wild hogs with it its the best side lock i have ever used and am trying to find another
Wednesday, 9. November 2011
Roland: That’s awesome! Thanks for being such a great CVA customer. We really appreciate your support. Good luck this season. Dudley
Thursday, 10. November 2011
Have a CVA Apex I bought. Use 3 white hots and a 250 grain Barnes EZ load bullet. This is the most awesome load and most accurate I’ve ever shot in a muzzleloader. Between my son and I we’ve shot five times this season, killed five nice bucks,that speaks for itself. Just ordered accura v2 and hope it shoots as well as the apex.
Saturday, 12. November 2011
I have a CVA Mag Bolt Hunter and I started to notice I am getting some corrosion in the breech plug area and I have always cleaned well…..Bore bright and shiney threads turning red looking any help would be good …….
Monday, 14. November 2011
I just bought a new muzzle loader its a CVA Kodiak 45 cal, I just finished sighting it in and I have to say I am very impressed I put 3 shots in a circle no bigger than a half dollar at 150 yrds. Michigan white tail season starts tomorrow and needless to say the old 12 gauge will be staying at home. My 2 oldest sons hunt with me and when its time to buy them muzzle loaders it will be a CVA. I am shooting 100 grains of 777 pellets with 195 grain power belts can anyone tell me how many yrds I should be able to shoot accurately?
Monday, 14. November 2011
Patrick: Sounds like you are dialed in for the season. Thanks for sharing your recipe. Good luck this year! Best regards, Dudley
Monday, 14. November 2011
donjose: About all that I can figure is that some corrossion got started in there and you’re just not getting it all out. All I can recommend is that you cleaning it very well and remove any accumulated rust. After that, be sure to use a good anti-seize grease on the threads. This should help control the rust and keep the plug from sticking. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 15. November 2011
I dont own a muzzleloader. Truly dnt have a clue about them. Im a riffle man. Just bought a Browning BAR 270wsm ShortTrac w a Leupold Boone and Crockett reticle 3.5.-10×50 VX-3L. Its an amazing piece of equipment 300yrds no problem. Neway i want a muzzle loader and $ isnt an issue. Is it possible and what set up from top to bottom do i need? I dont have time to test rounds and bs. Ive been told make sure i get a leupold sabot reticle. I want a. 50cal for certain. Load grain wise- brand pellets -grain of pellets. Brand of ammo. Mind u again i know nothing of them. I want to b able to shoot 300yrds and i am capable if the equipment is. Respond
Tuesday, 15. November 2011
Walter: Being a novice in muzzleloading, the first thing you should do is check out “Muzzleloading Basics” at http://www.cva.com. This is a video course that will teach you everything you need to know to get started. Good luck in muzzleloading! Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 15. November 2011
Terry: Muzzleloader guns will shoot accurately out to extreme distances — IF YOU UNDERSTAND AND ACCOMODATE FOR THE DROP. That is really the key to long range ML shooting. Once you get beyond 100 yards the projectiles will start drop substanially, and it is exponential the further out you get. So, for example, your drop at 400 yards could be 6 feet or more with some loads. Usually, long range shooters will use magnum (150 grain) powder charges to try to delay “falling off the cliff.” Good luck this season! Dudley
Friday, 18. November 2011
I just purchased the CVA Accura V2 for me and a CVA Optima for my son. Can you tell me what you would recommend …. Pellets or powder, what type of sabot and what grain? We are new to muzzleloading (heck we are new to hunting period-first year) and hear way to many different methods. Local gun shop says only black powder and a lot of other hunters say pellets. Do I want 240 – 250 – 300 grain sabot? Do we need the sabot sleeve? We will be hunting in brush with a max distance of about 150 yards. Please any help would be appreciated.
Saturday, 19. November 2011
DUDLEY.GOT A .50 CALIBER CVA OPTIMA ELITE.AS I MENTIONED BEFORE IT SHOOTS MAGNIFICENT. I WANT TO TRY THE NEW BH 209 POWDER IN MY MUZZLELOADER,BUT I WAS TOLD THAT I WOULD HAVE TO BUY A NEW B P OR OPEN UP THE FIRE CHANNEL AT THE END OF THE BP.CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME ADVICE ON THIS MATTER? IT DOESN’T HAVE THE QRBP.WOULD MY BREECH PLUG FIRE ALL OF THE BH209 POWDER?
Monday, 21. November 2011
Mr. McGarity,
This season I purchased a Scout rifle in .243 for my daughter to shoot. Every review I could find was positive. The feel of the action was far superior to the H&R or Rossi and it came with the scope mount. I was sold. The accuracy was acceptable. I was happy.
Unfortunately, I carried this gun with me for opening weekend of gun season in TN and experienced my first ever gun failure afield. I shot at what could have been the largest buck I had ever killed. Due to an unstable rest, I missed. A follow up shot was impossible as the breach was now locked and the action would not reset. Only 19 rounds have been fired though this gun and a thorough cleaning had just been completed before this issue. I have contacted customer support and will have to ship the gun to you for repair (which will take 3 -4 weeks). This is extremely disappointing as I personally thought the fit and function of the Scout was superior to the competition. Please do not take this post as a “slam”. I will follow the procedures for CVA to reconcile this unfortunate mishap. Hopefully, the gun will be repaired and shipped back in time for me to remount the scope, sight in and be ready to go for the second youth hunt in TN. Otherwise, we are going to have a sad little girl on our hands who is proving to have a great appreciation for whitetail hunting and the outdoors.
Monday, 21. November 2011
Robert: Give the Blackhorn a try. I have never heard of issues with the old non-QRBP plug. It has a shorter fire channel so you should be fine. Use a full-power primer rather than Winchester 777. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 22. November 2011
Jason: Sorry to hear about that! Probably some bluing salts in the internal parts bled out and caused the problem. We will try to turn the repair around as quickly as possible. Best regards, Dudley
Tuesday, 22. November 2011
Todd: I would recommentd the PowerBelt AeroLite in 250 grains, 2 White Hots pellets, and a Winchester W-209 shotshell primer. This is my personal “go to” load. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 22. November 2011
Dudley, curious as to why you are recommending the Winchester W-209 primers rather than the Triple Seven primers. Do the white hots need the extra power?
Tuesday, 22. November 2011
Ray: You are absolutely correct, that is the reason. White Hots perform best with the extra “fire power,” as does Blackhorn powder. With Pyrodex Pellets and Triple 7 Pellets, I always use the Winchester Triple 7 primer. Best regards, Dudley
Wednesday, 23. November 2011
Dudley, i have original cva accura love it but was wondering about white hots u talk about right now i am shooting 100 grains triple7 powder (not pellets) with 290 grain barnes tmz setup is very accurate but sabots get hard to load after couple shots so my questions are will white hots still give me velocity as 777 and make loading easier also using remington kleanbore primers.and can u tell me about how much power i would lose if any and just for information to others u can shoot this gun all day no problem with shoulder pain also zeroed in at 100 yds and killed buck at 140 yds using cross hairs very flat shooting
Wednesday, 23. November 2011
Eddie: It is pretty much the norm for saboted bullets to be difficult to be very difficult to load after a few shots. It is a combination of the fouling build up, the plastic residue from the sabot, and just the fact that saboted bullets fit so tight in the barrel. Therefore, the propellant that you use will not really make any difference in solving this problem. However, you will find PowerBelt Bullets much easier to load than sabots because they are made slighly underbore but then expand upon ignition to fill the rifling grooves — and since the plastic is not around the bullet, no plastic residue is left behind. Right now, I am shooting the PowerBelt AeroLite 250 with great results. Good hunting and Happy Thanksgiving! Dudley
Wednesday, 23. November 2011
Use Blackhorn209 and kiss crud rings and the need of swabbing between shots goodbye!
Thursday, 24. November 2011
The first Illinois whitetail season opened Nov. 18 and I was out there with my Accura and Aerolite bullets. Numerous range sessions thru the course of the summer had provided constant tight groups when using 2 777 pellets and the 300 gr. Aerolite. A great Illinois buck appeared 90 yards from my tripod stand about an hour after daylight. A shot from the Accura dropped the buck in his tracks. That evening, I shot a 137 lb. adult doe and again, the deer dropped in its tracks with another ribcage shot. It is great to own a rifle with such great accuracy combined with a bullet with such awsome knockdown power. You can bet your huntin’ truck and trailer that I will be back out there on Dec. 1 when the 2nd firearm season begins.
Friday, 25. November 2011
imagine my surprise when I put my blackhorn 209 plug into my wolf and could not l9ock down the action. I put the original plug back in loaded 60g of real blackpowder and a patched ball and hit a coke can at about 70 yards. That seems to wok or with full power 209s but the conversion plug is not fitting. Any ideas?
Friday, 25. November 2011
Ron: Yes. In the first installation of the Blackhorn plug it must be installed very tightly with the tool that came with the BH plug. This forms the plug face ring to the shoulder of the barrel. You may even want to secure the barrel in a vice and tap the tool with a hammer to tighten it up. Once this is done, the seal is formed and hand tightening is all that is necessary. Good luck. Dudley
Friday, 25. November 2011
Ron….I have the same breechplug issues on my Apex. I have not gotten it cured completely, but it is getting closer.(Have you followed the seating instructions?) I could not get it tight enough with the wrench supplied & had to remove the barrel from the receiver & hold the wrench in the plug while using a hammer to tap on the wrench i order seat it deep enough for it to work. It is much better, but still to be seated a little deeper.
Friday, 25. November 2011
After hammering it tighty and still not being able to cock the gun I honed the end with a diamond block until finger tight it would cock. It didn’t take much but now it is working great.
Friday, 25. November 2011
I was surprised that a patched ball worked so well. I a sure at a longer range i will have less accuracy but for now all is good. My blackhorn plug is fitted and that is a good thing even for 777 powder.
Saturday, 26. November 2011
Any idea when Blackhorn QR breech plugs AC1611BH will be available again?? Thanks
Monday, 28. November 2011
Last Thanksgiving my Father in Law and I were sighting in our muzzleloaders one of which was a BPI Frontier Cascade Magnum sn 61-13-169962-04. We have both been muzzleloader hunting for over 15 years and own few different muzzleloaders so we have experience with muzzleloaders.
The gun was loaded with 100 grains (2 pellets) of 777 with a 245 grain power belt bullet and a Winchester 209 primer. While sighting in this gun the barrel burst downward 2 1/4 inches from the end of the barrel to 5 1/2 inches from the end of the barrel. It appears the barrel bulged near the halfway mark of the burst. The sights blew off, the ramrod was shattered and the barrel band is MIA along with the missing part of the barrel. The shrapnel from the barrel all went straight down no one was hurt from the barrel although we both most likely have some hearing loss even with hearing protection in place.
I checked the internet and saw some information about similar problems with CVA/BPI muzzleloaders. I came across this link and attempted to call customer service. After waiting about 15 minutes a young man came on and told me that I should watch a video so that I know how to load a muzzleloader. Really, years of shooting muzzleloaders and he suggests that we don’t know how to load one of these? He offered to have me send in the barrel at my cost and if your employees think it is defective they would replace it. After speaking to him a bit longer he offered to sell a new barrel without a band or ramrod.
With some of the information out there I am not sure if the barrel can be trusted even if it was replaced. But I wanted your side if the issue. We were shooting the same loads out of three other different guns that day with no other issues. I don’t think it was us loading the gun or the charge in the gun which leaves me with one other possibility. I can send you a picture of the barrel if you would like.
Monday, 28. November 2011
where can i get a wooden stock for my inline cva stag horn 50 cal? is it even possible since only one screw holds the barrel to the stock?
Tuesday, 29. November 2011
Matt: We would need to examine the barrel to try to determine the cause. Just send the gun back with a copy of your note above and we will inspect it. If it is any type of manufacturing/quality issue, we for sure will replace the gun. The failure that you describe, however, is in no way similar to the failures that led to the recall back in 1997. Probably the reason that our CSR suggested you look at the video is because the failure type you describe is exactly what happens when there is some type of barrel obstruction. Only way we can tell for sure is to look at it here. In any case, your next step is to send the barrel in for inspection. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 29. November 2011
Gary T.: I show the AC1611BH as being in stock. Did anyone recently tell you otherwise? Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 29. November 2011
Harley: We never made a wood stock for that model. Thanks, Dudley
Tuesday, 29. November 2011
Thanks Dudley, The CVA web store, and the Bergara site both show out of stock. Perhaps I should call them. Thanks for you attention, Gary
Thursday, 1. December 2011
sn005032 I was able to put 5 balls in a block of oak at 78 yds,measured.They were all stacked behind each other in the same hole! 4 knot cross wind at elbow rest off the hood of pickup.70 grain eq of fffg pillow ticking spit patched ball. Two witnessed and doucumented.Mt View Arkansas 11nov2001 140pm.Good ole smokepole!!!!
Thursday, 1. December 2011
Walter: Yes, you found the secret. A light powder charge will allow accurate shooting in a fast twist barrel — as long as the shooter is accurate too! Good job on that group and thanks for sharing your story. Best regards, Dudley
Thursday, 1. December 2011
Gary: We are getting that corrected next week. Packaging was the issue. We will have that in by Monday or Tuesday and will be back “in stock” in the store. Thanks, Dudley
Sunday, 4. December 2011
Do you know if you still sell parts for the Eclipse? I can’t find anything on the website about it. I’m in need of a trigger assembly. Thank you in advance.
Sunday, 11. December 2011
DUDLEY,WHY AREN’T THERE ANY Q@A ON THE TRUTH ABOUT MUZZLELOADERS THAT YOU HAVE?I HAVEN’T SEEN ANY ON THERE SINCE FROM BACK IN DEC.1ST.
Sunday, 11. December 2011
Robert: I was in Spain last week visiting our plant, so I may have missed a couple. If so, I will catch up soon. Thanks, Dudley
Sunday, 18. December 2011
Dudley,
Is it possible to get additional information on the materials used in your entry level barrels? Something specifically addressing the points made in the Wakeman/Hawks articles about material quality, testing and pressures.
I am interested in purchasing the Wolf model.
Thanks in advance,
Carson
Monday, 19. December 2011
Mike: Yes, we still have Eclipse parts. Call 770-449-4687. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 19. December 2011
Carson: Stainless steel is 416. Carbon steel is 4140. All the barrels that we use are produced in the Bergara Barrels factory, even though only the APEX, ACCURA, and ELKHORN feature the “premium finish” Bergara brand barrels. Barrels for less expensive guns do not go through as many honing passes as do the “Bergara” barrels. However, materials used and methods for making all barrels are the same. You can see the process on a video at http://www.BergaraBarrels.com. Thanks, Dudley
Monday, 19. December 2011
Hello,
I’m considering buying the CVA Optima 50 cal with thumbhole stock and stainless barrel and I have a couple of questions.
1) Are any of the parts on these guns American Made? If not, where are they made?
2) How does this gun compare to a T/C Bone Collector?
Thanks for any help!
Monday, 19. December 2011
Craig: Here you go…
1.) All CVA guns are made in Spain.
2.) The Optima shoots just as good as the Bone Collector but costs half as much. If you want to spend “Bone (or is it Bill) Collector money,” buy the CVA Accura V2 with a Bergara Barrel and you’ll have a gun that shoots better than the BC also — GUARANTEED OR YOUR MONEY BACK!
Thanks,
Dudley
Monday, 19. December 2011
I have an Apolla CVA 54 ca, which I LOVE. It uses #11 caps and the last 2 times I had mis fires. May I please buy the parts and convert it to a 209 primer system. I do “NOT” want another gun. I just think the caps are NOT powerfull enough to ignite the powder. Please, if there is a kit out there I”LL BUY it. I use round balls and have taken 11 deer and 3 bears. SUPER great gun PLEASE help. Dr. T.
Monday, 19. December 2011
Dr. Tom: What is the serial number on the gun? Dudley
Monday, 19. December 2011
Craig,
My Brother in law had a TC and I have a 11 year old Stag Horn, we use our own molded 250 grain sabots and pyrodex. My gun throws them down range all day without a hiccup, his didn’t even want to hit the paper. He ended up buying copper-jacketed rounds and locking it down in a bench rest to get it sighted in.
This will be the last year for the Staghorn. Looking a Wolf for next year.
Tuesday, 20. December 2011
anyone out there looking for a 30-06 scoped barrel for an optima elite rifle?going completely muzzleloading.it is 24″ and has a muzzle brake on it.not a complete box of shells throught it.scope is 4×16x40,dual colored reticles and has 5 brightness setings each. send reply through e-mail if interested.
Wednesday, 21. December 2011
hi there might be interested in barrel and how much
Wednesday, 21. December 2011
I want to thank the CVA company for their outstanding asistance. When I called the company Dave asked for the serial number and was stunned to learn that their was a recall. I have been instructed what to do and it is now on it’s way to GA. I can not begin to tell you how professional Dave was @ handling the situation and awaite the arrival of the new gun. There is nothing but high praises for this company and my son has just bought an optima. We are committed to a professional company called CVA. Dr. Testa
Wednesday, 21. December 2011
Dr. Tom: I am happy to see that Dave got you taken care of. I had a suspicion that that might have been a recall gun. Enjoy the replacement and thanks for the kind note above. Best regards, Dudley
Wednesday, 21. December 2011
Looking for some advice/help!
I was lucky enough to purchase a CVA Optima Thumbhole Muzzleloader package from a local Dunham’s store in Michigan. I say lucky because these are out of stock at all of the Dunham’s stores in the state.
Here’s my issue. When I took the gun out of the box last night I noticed a couple of issues:
1) There is a 1″ black smudge (line/mark) at the end of the stainless barrel on the top.
2) There is a rub mark on the left side of the barrel release trigger.
3) The “Konus” logo on the side of the scope is smudged.
I would just take it back and exchange it for another one, but as I mentioned earlier, there are no others available in the state. I really don’t want to return it so does anyone know if I have any other options??
Thanks for any help!
Wednesday, 21. December 2011
Earlier this year I was fortunate enough to buy a new in the box CVA Kentucky 50 caliber rifle. It was dead on at 75 yards without doing anything to the sights. This past season I harvested a ten-point buck at 80 yards using a Hornady PA conical and 80 grains of Pyrodex P. Using my Bobcat my 11 year-old grandson harvested his first buck at 60 yards using a Buffalo Bullet Conical and 85 grains of Pyrodex RS. I now own five CVA side-locks and would not trade any of them for any other side-locks on the market today. Hopefully some day CVA will start making side-locks one again for us traditional hunters.
Wednesday, 21. December 2011
Craig: If you don’t want to return it there are not many options. You might try some fine steel wool on the barrel mark. But heck, once you get a bunch of deer blood on it you won’t notice this stuff anyway!
Wednesday, 21. December 2011
Walley: That is fantastic that you have all those CVA sidelocks. I have a 25th Anniversary Mountain Rifle in flintlock that is still my favorite gun to hunt with. However, the general market has gone so far toward the modern in-lines that we cannot really make any money selling sidelocks. The equipment at the factory would not run enough to pay for the space it takes up. Today, most serious traditional guys are buying custom or semi-custom guns. That’s just the way it is. Our mission is to give consumers what they want, and what 99.9% want is in-lines. Dudley
Wednesday, 21. December 2011
Would it be possible to make an exchange with CVA?
Wednesday, 21. December 2011
I PAID $220.00 forthe barrell and $165.oo to have the muzzle brake put on and $80.00 for the scope,for a total of $465.00.I’LL ASK $375.00
Wednesday, 21. December 2011
I just joined a primitive bp club here what great fun and it al began with my wolf from WalMart
Thursday, 22. December 2011
THIS IS TO RICK IN REGARDS TO THE PRICE ON THE OPTIMA ELITE BARREL.I POSTED THE PRICE ON12/21.TRY TO GET BACK TO ME,PLEASE.
Thursday, 22. December 2011
Ron: That’s great. I hope you enjoy shooting with your Wolf. Thanks for choosing CVA! Best regards, Dudley
Thursday, 22. December 2011
Love my CVA muzzleloader. I bought one last year and just shot my first deer with it which I got on film ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0eBAnZ9q6s ) I owned a knight bolt action previous to this and the bolt was hard to dissassemble and you needed a special tool for bolt removal and breech plug removal. Horrible! Now it takes me 1/5th the time to clean my CVA Optima. I did my research and this article was one of the first I read. I am convinced the problem is fixed and I am now CVA’s biggest fan. I shoot 100gr 777 under a Hornady 250gr .50 SST and it shoots same spot with a clean or dirty barrel. Knight I was constantly prepping the barrel before hunts and now I just go and hunt like you’re supposed to. The breech plug on my Optima screws off by hand and at times my knight took a pair of vice grips and a hammer! These barrel incidences occured over 13 years ago and seriously it just needs to go away. CVA has paid it’s penance and makes a great barrel now and learned from it’s mistakes. THANKS for an accurate, reasonably priced rifle!!!
Friday, 23. December 2011
robert, i seen u post, is it a blued barrel?
Friday, 23. December 2011
Bonehead: Thanks for sharing your story and thanks for choosing CVA! Dudley
Friday, 23. December 2011
My wolf shoots .490 ball and ticking patch with 60gn of ffg. Cool
Friday, 23. December 2011
1. As an early Christmas present my granddaughter gave me a CVA Elkhorn Pro to go along with the other seven CVA rifles in the cabinet. As soon as I get the chance I will be working up a load for it and am looking for suggestions on where to start using Pryodex RS and #ll caps. There is a black powder jackpot shoot in two weeks that I would like to use it in where one of the contests is for bolt action rifles only. Three shots in three minutes at 75 yards freehand, winner take all.
Friday, 23. December 2011
rear sling hole broke off stock. can i get it replaced? went trough 6 diff brands of bullets. three diff kinds of powder. can only get 6 to 7 in group. power belts could not keep on paper. have one more type to try. trp 7 and hornady ez load 250gr . will try it with 2 and 3 pellit loads. i will let you know how it does..
Friday, 23. December 2011
I purchased an Accura V2 before our muzzleloading season. I had very little time to sight it in before the season. I mounted a nice Leupold BDC scope on it and went to sight it in. I used 100 gr. of White Hots, Powerbelt 250 gr. Aerolite Bullets and Winchester muzzleloader primers. I hit paper on the first shot and, using the new method of sighting in (rather than guessing how many clicks to move the turrets) I was in the bullseye on the third shot and fine-tuned to a 1 3/4″ group on then next three shots. I have never sighted in a rifle with only three shots! I am truly impressed with this rifle. It is very light, well balanced and it is not only accurate, but consistently accurate; something I never got from my old TC. Thanks for the great product.
Friday, 23. December 2011
RICK,THE BARREL IS A BLACK MATTE FINISH.
Friday, 23. December 2011
Ed D: I love to hear stories like that! Thanks for sharing. Best regards, Dudley
Wednesday, 28. December 2011
Wetzel, what CVA muzzy are you shooting? I tried the EZ load sabots with the 250gr SST and they shot horrible for me as well. The sabot is the main component that decides whether you have good accuracy or not. Once i know what rifle you have i can easily offer you some advice on an accurate load.
Wednesday, 28. December 2011
accura.50cal. i got some hornadays i am going to try. cva told me to get white hot pellits the closest place to get them is about 70 miles away.too much for the hazmat charges to ship. like i said i have tried 4 or 5 dif rounds. and can i ship the stock back and get it fixed? thanks.
Wednesday, 28. December 2011
Mr. McGarity, Dr. Tom here. The recall was “NOTICED LEFT” on 12/23. They are stating that CVA is closed till after January 4th, 2012. Is this correct or another USPS blunder?? Thanks Dr. Tom
Wednesday, 28. December 2011
rick,still looking to see if you are interested in the 30-06 optima elite barrel. price is negotionable.robert
Wednesday, 28. December 2011
Wetzel, stop by here and sign up. http://www.frontiermuzzleloadin.powerguild.net
I can help you out with links to my Accura’s range reports and such. Sabots are a pain in the butt at times but i do have a few sabot loads worked up and should be able to help you out pretty quickly.
Im sure you can send the stock back for replacement due to the sling stud breaking. Kinda makes you miss the steel sling studs huh? I actually modified my Optima’s forearm to use the old style screw in stud.
Robert, if you are wanting to sell that 3006 barrel sign up at the link above and i’ll help you out with a couple other places to list it.
Thursday, 29. December 2011
I bought a New Enghlander for shooting in the contest it is about 10 years old and looked like it may have been shot once. Have a Kentucky pistol kit on the way. Can’t shoot inline to compete in traditional but do enjoy my wolf too
Thursday, 29. December 2011
Oh yes 54 cal with 60 grains of goex ffg
for sidelock NE.
Thursday, 29. December 2011
robert, if it wasn’t black would have been more interested sorry>
Thursday, 29. December 2011
Wetzel: You should never get results like that from an ACCURA. Send the entire gun back and we will replace the barrel and fix your broken stock. There has to be an issue with the barrel. Include a note describing the issue and mention in the note that you have spoken to me on the blog. Thanks, Dudley
Thursday, 29. December 2011
Dr. Tom: Yes, we are closed until the 3rd. We always shut down for the week after Christmas. I am off doing a little deer and quail hunting. Have a happy new year! Dudley
Thursday, 29. December 2011
jonathan kozoil.went to the web sight you posted and sighned up.put the 30-06 elite barrel on there and hope i did it right. thank you for the information.robert
Sunday, 1. January 2012
thanks mr. mcgarity i will send it on monday . and send a note with it.
wetzel bowe..
Wednesday, 11. January 2012
DUDLEY,WHAT IS THIS NEW MUZZLELOADER CALLED THE MOUNTAINEER OR MOUNTAIN RIFLE THAT I HEARD THAT IS OUT OR COMING OUT BY CVA?
Wednesday, 11. January 2012
Accura Mountain Rifle
Wednesday, 11. January 2012
Mr. McGarity. Would it be wise to assume that the replacement would take up to 30 days to reach us?. I think I am a little kid again awaiting the arrival of a replacement, which I have “NO” idea on what it will be, other than a great CVA product. More curious than anything but maybe even noisy?? Dr. Tom
Wednesday, 11. January 2012
Robert: It is the ACCURA MR — and the MR does indeed stand for Mountain Rifle. Go to our CVA MUZZLELOADER HUNTER Facebook page and you can see the photo that I posted yesterday. Thanks, Dudley
Friday, 13. January 2012
cva lost my business when they quit making hawkins and other traditional blackpowder guns
Friday, 13. January 2012
You know Tom, I too like to shoot my NEW/OLD traditionals. It is a lot of fun to hold a piece of history replica but not many are sold and it has become a nitch business. Be glad some still make and sell some. The club I belong to has some real dedicated shooters who insist on sidelocks,open sights and real black powder. We have to have club buys on BP because no one will carry it locally. Oh, they tolerate my Spanish made guns but, think of them as not so desirable. Of course then there are the flinters. They only like stone aged.
Friday, 13. January 2012
Tom and Ron: I understand where you are coming from. One of my favorite muzzleloaders to hunt with is my CVA Mountain Rifle 25th Anniversary Edition. We made 500 of these back in 1996 and they were beautiful — maple stock, buckhorn sights, browned steel. I converted mine to a flintlock using an L&R lock. We’d gotten a special price on the maple blanks and were therefore able to sell these guns for $499. An awesome value. Unfortunately, it still took us five years to sell them all. Shortly after that we came to the realization that our (business) mission was to build guns that hunters wanted to buy — and that had become modern in-lines for the vast majority of them. At the time, 40% of our factory space was still devoted to the machinery for making sidelocks, yet our sidelock business had become only 10% of our total sales. Therefore, we made the decision to drop sidelocks from our offering and expand our production capability in the in-line designs. It was not that we did not personally still like to shoot and hunt with sidelocks, but rather that the consumer who was not “traditionally oriented” had moved on to in-line sytle guns — especially as they becames less expensive. Many of us here at CVA still love to shoot our old sidelocks, we just are no longer in the business of making them (in fact, several of us shoot longbows or recurves for bowhunting). Lyman, T/C and Traditions still offer sidelock guns, and there are many custom makers as well. This is more than enough production to satisfy the less than 1% of hunters who prefer to shoot a traditional gun. Just wanted to make clear that CVA is in no way “anti-sidelock” just because we don’t produce them anymore. We love to shoot all kinds of muzzleloaders. And the traditional ones were how we started in the muzzleloading business way back in 1971, so they still have special place in our hearts — even if not in our catalog. Thanks and good hunting (with whatever kind of muzzleloader you like to shoot), Dudley
Friday, 13. January 2012
mr. mcgarity
sent the accura back today like you said to .it took an act of god. u.p.s. wanted 98.97 to ship. after some colorfull words they changed there price to 29.98.sent it to deluth ga.suite 300. could not get the return form to print. so its on the way..
wetzel bowe
Friday, 13. January 2012
Wetzel: Okay, we will be on the lookout for it. Thanks, Dudley
Friday, 13. January 2012
I asked a local gs owner if he carried bp guns and he said very firmly no and we won’t. When I asked whay he said he had one in the stroe he would nmake me a great deal on because he had not been able to sell it in 6 years. Kind of sad but I like to ride horses too and as few as there are in town I bet there are more horses to ride than bp shooters.
Friday, 13. January 2012
Did I mention I love my Wolf. Handy and easy to shoot.
Sunday, 15. January 2012
Ron: That’s great! The CVA Wolf is indeed a nice little gun. All the basic features you need to get the job done! Dudley
Sunday, 15. January 2012
Tom and Ron
A word of advice; if you, like myself, are interested in CVA side locks with little effort you can locate new old stock CVA rifles at some of the smaller gun shops and hardware stores. My first CVA side lock was a Bobcat that our local hardware store had in their rack for over ten years with no one showing any interest in it and sold it to me for twenty-five dollars just to get rid of it. Thanks to Deer Creek Products it now sports a wooden stock and ram rod along with adjustable open iron sights. My next find was at a gun show where I picked up a new in the box 50 cal St Louis Hawkens for two-hundred. To make a long story short I have also picked up a new Kentucky Rifle and a new 54 cal Hawkens from two different small shops at very good prices. I also picked up another 50 cal Hawkens used with a broken stock at a pawn shop for fifty-bucks and once again Deer Creek came through so now one of my grandsons is the owner of a gun he can be proud of. Friday I picked up another Bobcat in good shop at a pawn shop for forty-five bucks so tomorrow I will be ordering a wooden stock, ram rod and sights for it and fix it up for a close friend of mine. There are a lot of these guns out there and all it takes is a little effort to find them. Don’t be afraid of used guns it doesn’t take a whole lot to recondition them and Deer Creek has the parts you might need.
Monday, 16. January 2012
mr. mcgarity.. its in ga. out for del tuesday.note in box. thanks wetzel.
Saturday, 21. January 2012
Received my replacement (Optima) for the recalled rifle. Love the quick-release breech plug. Thanks for standing behind your product!
Saturday, 21. January 2012
i would like to see a target you guys shot with a powerbelt. i cant get any were closer than 10 to 12 in from center. thats from a mech.rest.and i cant understand it. i have been reloading for about 36 years. my deer guns will put them in a onehalf to threequater in hole. i have hand carved four stocks for sidelocks they shoot great. thanks for your time..
Saturday, 21. January 2012
Wetzel: We shoot clover leafs about every time we go out to shoot Accura and Apex rifles. What gun are you shooting? If any CVAs are giving you that poor a group with PowerBelts, you need to return the gun for replacement. Dudley
Saturday, 21. January 2012
Wetzel: Is this the gun you returned earlier????? Dudley
Saturday, 21. January 2012
Mr. McGarity, Dr. Tom here. Have not heard a word on the .54 cal Apollo that was signed by one of your workers on Jan3rd, 2012 @10:06 by R Hart or Hunt. Just curious. Letter was attched to the weapon and inside the gun box that I returned the CVA in. Please advise. Thank you Dr. Tom
Saturday, 21. January 2012
yes the accura i sent back to you.i would like to know what or if you find out. again i thank you for everythink you are doing to work this out.all i can tell you is take it out and shoot it. i did not use whitehots to far to go and get them.i used 250gr. and 295gr with two and three pellit loads.my local gun shop dont sell powerbelts anymore to many complants.on one can get them to shoot stright.and they are not cheap. i love the way they load i just wish i could get them to shoot. thanks again wetzel..ps like to send a pic of the first sidelock i bult from scrach..
Wednesday, 25. January 2012
I have been given a CVA KA720 50cal Mountain Pistol kit for Christmas. Ser#0059438. It’s brand new in the box, but I can tell it’s been on the shelf for a while. Is there anything I need to know about this gun, other than the directions that came with it? I’d like to take it to the range in a month or so.
Is this the American, French or Spanish made? Can I use the bp pellets? Can I use the Lee real bullets (I already have the mold)?
Wednesday, 25. January 2012
No new guns for me until I can wear out this old 2001 BPI-CVS Stag Horn 50 cal. Magnum. I have shot this rifle hundreds upon hundreds of times.I do not have enough fingers and toes to count how many deer this old rifle has taken from 30 to 125 yards. I traded an old JC Higgins 22 rifle for her years ago.I thought at the time that old guy had gotten the best of the deal. A ton of meat later I see I got the best of the deal. I have a cheap 3×9 Tasco Prong Horn scope on her and I use 2 50 grain pellets of pyrex along with a jacketed 250 grain hollow point. That is all I have ever shot out of the rifle. I take good care of her.At the range I run an alcohol patch then a patch of bore butter after every 3rd shot.I then break her down,clean every thing and use bore butter for extended storage.Uses 209 primers and has never failed to fire nor has she ever had a delayed fire. The bore and 1-32 twist and the rifling is like new. I may buy a new model but it wont be any time soon.Why mess with a good thing? Form and function is the key to success. I out shoot my friend and his TC Hawkins at 100 yards. So much for you get what you pay for oye? Anyhow,it is a great rifle and I will definitely buy another when and if I can wear this one out.
Thursday, 26. January 2012
Daddio: Wow, that is an old one. Made in Spain. Anytime mid 80s through mid 90s. You’ll need to use loose powder rather than pellets. Just following instructions for loading. Best regards, Dudley
Thursday, 26. January 2012
Deer slayer: Hey, I agree with you. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix (or replace) it! All of us here are very happy that you are so pleased with your CVA. Good hunting, Dudley
Thursday, 26. January 2012
Dr. Tom: Your replacement gun is on order and will ship very soon — along with a pack of PowerBelt AeroLite bullets. Anyone else out there reading this post who knows someone with a Recall Gun (CVA In-line from 1995 or 1996 with serial numbers ending in 95 or 96), please let them know that we will replace the gun with a new one, just like we did for Dr. Tom. Just call 770-449-4687. Thanks, Dudley
Thursday, 26. January 2012
mr. mcgarity
any word on the accura i sent back?
Thursday, 26. January 2012
Mr.Dudley.Was the Bobcat ending in 95 recalled? Thank you.
Thursday, 26. January 2012
Deer Slayer: No, the Bobcat is a sidelock. No sidelocks were recalled. Only in-lines. Best regards, Dudley
Thursday, 26. January 2012
Thanks for the fast reply Dudley.Customer service means everything to me . Best Regards to you.
Friday, 27. January 2012
Thank you Mr. Mcgarity for the latest info. I will say nothing else on our other communication and awaite the arrival, when it comes, of the replacement rifle. At that time I will confir with you on recommended powder loads etc and will use it for the elk hunt in N.M. in October and would gald to send a photo if I am sucessful with that weapon or had to shoot far out with the 06. I would like PLEASE a heads up when the weapon is shipped to me. Thank you. Dr. Thomas R. Testa